First, I find it strange that theRepublic didn't answer my questions and disappeared once some heat started coming my way. Not that I want to deflect heat from me onto someone else, but
Now I'd like to clarify this quote of myself:
Linkzmax said:
If names are important as you seem to be pointing out then it could show Kantor as either scum or PR; however, this would hint that you're implying you have no name in your description thus being vanilla.
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If I make anything most clear in this post: This is not me claiming that "no-name" means vanilla. Nor am I denying now that this actually is the case. It's just a statement that either theRepublic wasn't making any point at all with the "names" or had some information that names are important.
GodOfWar_3ever said:
linkzmax might not have been referring to this game in general. Lets see how this goes.
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GoW was right in that I'm not talking about this game [specifically]. I have read through a mafia game on another site in which there were both named and non-named players.(And within vanillas at that)
theprof00 said:
Oh, additionally, about linkzmax' statement that vanilla townie would not have a name is false.
He is probably the highest on my list right now. Other vanillas who have names should vote with me on this.
vote: linkzmax
Edit: this computer doesn't show bold very well, so I didn't notice that it wasn't bolded.
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This and several other posts you made initially gave me a scum read on you. Not simply due to the "you're scum" "No, I'm not. You are for voting me" mentality.(I forget the acronym) Now though I have the strongest town feeling on you. I can get into reasons if someone wants, but at this time I'm still going through everything on me so that'll be another post.
Also, even though they seem diametrically opposed I also believe Heph is town. One is clearly lying though unless Khuutra's option number 3 is the correct one.
theprof00 said:
Also, linkzmax was online last night having a discussion with (nen-suer?) when I posted my list. He never responded. Most likely he is waiting for people to argue the point for him so that the reliability of a counter-claim would appear more genuine and pervasive.
So far, hat and nen-suer have spoken up. Hat was all for a lynch yesterday, but now he's not.
I'm willing to wait for a response. But I think it's a pretty solid case.
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Just would like to point out that in the 11 hours since you posted your list, nobody else responded to it either. Other than Khuutra in respect to me, not that I'd expect any type of response to "I think you're doctor, so you're mafia." It was again some hours until the next post in the thread so it's not like there was a mountain yet to answer to.
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Also, note that linkzmax only picked on nen-suer for voting no lynch when plenty of other people had done so.
I'm taking a leap of faith :
Vote : Linkzmax
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[South Park] REALLLLLY? [/South Park]
Linkzmax said:
| nen-suer said:
I like crazy theories, they make the game more fun. Just make sure they are not confusing and hard to explain.
Vote: no lynch
Nothing really going on here and i think we had enough useless discussions for day 1.
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Not sure how long day one usually lasts here, but you sure seem anxious to get to night one
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I wasn't jumping on the no lynch(and it was only the second one at that) as I also voted no lynch. It was the rush to end discussions that I jumped at. For the record my vote stands as no lynch as I don't think I'll be switching it to anyone on this day, but seeing all of the discussion that actually has come out so far I'm in no rush to end the day. I'd go as far as unvoting if I thought a hammer was coming soon, though still not wanting an actual lynch, if I thought there was still more to be said before night.
Also FoS: GodOfWar_3ever
Like prof above I'll explain why in another post.
SuperAdrianK said:
Lots happened.
So let me get this straight.
Prof claims all townies have names.
Link says none of them do.
hepheastos says the same thing.
It became a case of one them not knowing what the townies had.
So why don't we lynch one of them?
Link still hasn't even responded to this backlash.
vote:linkzmax
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I have now explained myself. If you don't have a better reason or something based on my response, then please unvote.
| hatmoza said:
I'm still willing to lynch Linkz ... but he's disappeared on us. Coincidence? Newb or not, I think he couldn't handle the pressure.
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Bring the pressure, I can not only handle it but I was actually excited to see my name out there. Not that I want to be lynched, but it's like getting into a hand of high-stakes poker for the first time. Monday night-Tuesday evening(EST) will always be the worst time for me to post.
Bolded my responses in the following:
theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
@Final-Fan
I believe you missed prof's vote of me unless I somehow missed an unvote.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3741135
It seems I have some addressing to do, and I will cover everything that was asked/pointed my way. Much of that will come in another post later, as I have a bunch of reading up to do as well.
But first, I was online to read prof's post but at the time I didn't think much of the suspicions my way warranted a defense. I am new, but I don't want to use that an excuse to play poorly; however, it does mean that my inexperience will probably lead me to see some logic and agree with it which happens to be my case with the no lynch vote. That vote could certainly change with everything that's been said since I posted it or with new information dug up this day, but at the time I saw no reason to blindly take out anyone. When I do lay out my scumspects I won't merely be miming others or getting a preconceived notion from someone's trail and then seeing where it leads.
I'm not sure how or what I was cherry-picking, so I'll have to ask for clarification.
And finally, I will not nameclaim(or no-name nameclaim) period in this game. Townies have no idea what other towns' descriptions say, while mafia know who all the town are.(Yes I know this is the obvious premise of the game) A nameclaim would do no benefit to the town, unless there's a mass nameclaim.(No, I don't want this to happen and as I saw in the signup thread, nobody does) It would on the other hand benefit scum as it could help them blend. Unless of course the townie lies and isn't forced to flip.
As to my online status. I always leave a VGC tab open, but I don't know how long the *Online* tag stays there without any activity. I'm also reading the thread while at work from my phone occassionally. As I stated yesterday, I can't seem to post from my phone, so that's not good. On top of that I don't have the ability to take notes then, so as hooked as I am already I'm going to refrain from that.
Now I'll be doing that reading up and response.
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You are new, yet you are experienced enough to say this:
"There are some set-ups which nearly require a day one lynch even should it turn mislynch, but I care not to speculate on that in a game of this size especially without knowing the number of night kills we'll be facing."
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3738760
The experience I have is reading a couple of games and learning what some common roles are, but I have zero playing experience. In newbie games on mafiascum, the set up is 7 townies and 2 mafia. Worst case the town has three lynches if they lynch day one, but only 2 and worse odds for each lynch if they no lynch day one. The rest I mean what I said, in a game of 19 other players and a mod I have zero experience with, I have no idea how many of anything there are.
This is what you said about names. Kantor said "so it's vanilla game but we have sailor moon names"
Me and others thought this might have been a slip by kantor. Therepublic quoted it and asked if anyone else thought it was suspicious. This was your response:
"I marked it down as a possible slip, but not quite a tell. Seeing as the theme is "Sailor Moon" just mentioning there are names doesn't quite give alignment.
If names are important as you seem to be pointing out then it could show Kantor as either scum or PR; however, this would hint that you're implying you have no name in your description thus being vanilla."
This I address within this post, everything after was not towards me specifically.
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WHEW! I nearly lost this entire post with a click outside of the box. Extremely glad I learned a way to recover them. And In the future, is a post of this length too long?
