Scoobes said:
Michael-5 said:
3. True, and most PC games sales are probably digital, but some games are not available on Steam or other download services (e.g. Gears of War 1), and they still acheice a 10 to 1 sales ratio console to PC.
However It depends on the game, I can't say all games sell better on consoles, RPG's like Dragon Age do post quite substantial PC sales. Good point you made, but a console exclusive, is still some form of exclusive, and when comparing the 360 to PS3 lineup, console exclusives should still be taken into consideration, and the 360 has a good 2011 lineup. You can't say PS3's lineup is better simply because a third of the 360 exclusives come out on PC.
4. I never said anything about Mass Effect 3, I dunno whats the story on that game.
Mass Effect 2 on PS3 I've read will only be a port of the original game, with an added cinematic explaining what events happened in the original title, the cerberus network add on, and some of the DLC, but not all of it. The reasoning for Mass Effect 2 comming to the PS3 is because EA aquired the rights to the franchise after ME1, and unlike EA has no reason to keep the game exclusive to Microsoft systems.
Also it is a port, it was not originaly designed with PS3 specs in hand, it won't run as well as other timed exclusives (which were timed from the start).
Still good points, I'll admit PC gaming is substantial, but when comparing consoles to one another, a console exclusive is still some form of exclusive, or reason to get one console over the other, and still takes away the arguement that PS3 has had a better lineup recently, or will in the future. Also most 360 exclusives are pure exclusives, only non pure exclusives MS has this year are Fable 3, Conviction, Supreme Commander 2, and Metro 2033. Halo, Alan Wake, Crackdown, Kinect/games, among others are still pure exclusives, and Fable is a timed 360 pure exclusive.
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3. I believe Gears1 is available on GFWL. Furthermore, it's probably not the best example as it was released 1 year after the 360 version and was ported very poorly (including some horrible bugs that prevented me from playing it). Virtually all PC games are now available via download services and of course, certain genres and game types will sell better than others. I can't imagine Fifa or Pro Evo sell particularly well on PC for instance.
As you say, console exclusive is still exclusive in some regards. But for numerous people, they will see they can get a game on PC and that can act as a negative for 360. For instance, when I was looking to buy my next gen console, the first I bought was Wii because it offered the most unique (and different from PC) experience, followed by PS3 due to the full exclusives and then 360. The library of 360 looks less unique to other consoles which is why some may see the 360 library as weaker.
This has definately improved however with the examples you gave.
4. You did mention ME3 in your earlier post if you look. I'm gonna guess it's just a typo, but it was a bit confusing.
My point was that nothing is finalised as of yet. The DLC not in the game as part of the package, may still be available for purchase on PSN. I also read that the PS3 will get an extra 6 hour campaign, which again, may or may not come to PC/360 (it should/better do though).
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Ah sorry, it was a typo. I was wondering what you were talking about.
Also I want to retract my comment on Mass Effect 2. It will be great on the PS3 and now I'm starting to hear rumors that the PS3 version gets most of the DLC for free with their copy of Mass Effect 2. To be honest, right now all we have are rumors, so I shouldn't have argued a rumor, and a bold one at that.
I still think it will be a better game on the 360 because a) it's based on the Mass Effect 1 engine, which was a game published by Microsoft and specifically designed for the 360, so it will simply run better on the 360. Don't get me wrong, PS3 and 360 are both powerful systems, but they are powerful in different ways (better textures and higher processing power on the 360, better multi tasking and bus speed on the PS3). So porting a game over may still make the game 95% as good on the PS3, but if you have both consoles, or a gaming quality PC, get it on PC>360>PS3.
b) Obviously the continued story from ME1, you just can't make players watch a long cinematic and then have them make decisions, it's not as good.
Also as for this extra 6 hour long campaign, I've heard about it, but we really dunno anything about it. I really doubt it won't come out for 360/PC because why would Bioware deny faithful ME fans full the full ME experience? We can't judge anything on rumors.
That said ME2 on PS3, will be phenominal, and I encourage ALL WRPG fans to pick up a copy. This is probably my favorite RPG of all time.
3. Gears 1 is not available of GFWL, but I beleive it's available on the 360 as a digital download (so sales should be higher then hardcopy sales).
Still I agree with the rest of your statement. It's worthy to note that a lot of the 360/XB console exclsuves do get ported to PC later. Halo 2 was released on PC months before Halo 3 was released, so I still count that as an XB exclusive, Gears of War 1 came out 1 year later on PC, and I know Fable 3 has a delayed PC release too.
Also, for your last statement here, be honest, how many gamers do you think have a gaming quality PC? If you have a gaming quality PC, 360 is probably the poorest choice for a console, but gaming quality PC's aren't free. Personally I'd rather have a Wii/360 then a high end gaming quality PC, and a Wii or a PS3.
A console exclusive is still some form of exclusive, just like Battlefield Bad Company 1 is an exclusive to consoles (no PC version right?) If for some reason there was a Wii/PS3 exclusive, it would still be a pro PS3 factor when comparing HD consoles.
