I stand corrected. Ok, so it wasn't found. And I know no one was denying his existence. I'm just saying that scrolls and records of things that confirm the Bible. Scrolls that may not have anything to do with the Bible directly. As for all the Deja Vu explanations, I was expecting that there would be scientific explanations for it. That doesn't mean I don't still have a spiritual explanation for it.

And LOL at the God Helment! That 'feeling' is not what I meant by I've experienced enough to be sure there's a God. What's a 'feeling' compared to experiencing miracles? Or talking to God? Or being forewarned b4 any major negative event dat concerns my family, allowing us to avoid most of them? Apart from talking to God myself, I once heard my little brother and a second person talking. But my brother was sleeping and his mouth wasn't moving. And there was a second voice. When he woke up, he told us about his conversation with Jesus. Maybe God let me over hear it bcuz he was young then and we might not have believed it was bonafide if he told us. But I know some one is gonna say there were 2 ventriloquists and post a link about a 'dream casting machine'.

Your hearing voices worries me greatly. You should visit a specialist about this.

Also, there are no historical chronicles that confirm any of the supernatural occurences mentioned in the Bible.

Sure it could theorectically explain it. But not to the level of understanding that science provides when explaining a natural mechanism. My issue with invoking God is simply that every time God was invoked in the past it was shown through science that such an explanation was flawed and that natural mechanism work perfectly well without God. This creates a God of the gaps which is ever decreasing in size and influence. A deistic or pantheistic verson of God could exist but given the track record I certainly don't think that that will be the explanation. And even if it was, why should I worship or even care about a non-anthropic God?

I simply see no reason to believe in something that doesn't support its own burden of proof.

The OP seems to have lost interest :( How come u only shot down the hearing voices part but none of the others? Is it bcuz that's the only 1 I gave any details on? Do u believe in eternity? If u don't, do u ever wonder 'What if they're right & there is a God? Will I spend eternity in hell?'. If I were in your shoes and I thought there was even an 0.001% chance that a God exists, I would do everything in my power to be absolutely sure bcuz an eternity in hell is not a risk I'm willing to take.

You can't explain away the warnings of future events I've received from God, the guidance to achieve certain things or the miracles. But I think you'll have to experience them for yourself to believe. Anyone who sincerely looks for the truth will find it. God promised that. But if you don't sincerely look for the truth, if you just half heartedly conclude things based on science and whatever else you drew your conclusions from, you may not find the truth. Especially if you're not looking for it in the first place but rather looking for proofs of God's non-existence.

1. What's the purpose of belief it the existence was absolute? While that may seem to be easier, it removes the purely free will that we all possess because we can chooose to beleive what we want.

2.  Women and men have the same rigths to each other's "lands" in the Qur'an. People tend to stop reading after the part directed to women, but its says immediately after that women share the same rights.

3. This related to #1. If God spoke directly to everyone then there would be no free will. There would only be one way to the end. Both the Bible and the Qur'an speak of different paths to God and both are spoken of in a way that each can be right. Just each describe their path as the best way. Unfortunately too many take that to mean that no other way is possible.

@tolu619:

The OP seems to have lost interest :( How come u only shot down the hearing voices part but none of the others? Is it bcuz that's the only 1 I gave any details on?

Yes, and quite frankly I've started losing interest in this thread also. Don't even remember exactly what were your other points. Of course when someone tells me that they're hearing voices I can't help but become worried.

Do u believe in eternity?

What do you mean by "eternity"?

If u don't, do u ever wonder 'What if they're right & there is a God? Will I spend eternity in hell?'.

Not really. Childish things like this (because they are childish for this day and age, sorry if I'm offending you) are just not worth taking into consideration.

If I were in your shoes and I thought there was even an 0.001% chance that a God exists, I would do everything in my power to be absolutely sure bcuz an eternity in hell is not a risk I'm willing to take.

I'd have as much luck trying to prove that griffins exist. Plus, I think it's a mistake on your part to assume that even if some sort of "higher power" would exist, that it would be your deity, and that everything you were told about it is true. There would be lots of things to prove, not just the existence per se.

Anyone who sincerely looks for the truth will find it. God promised that. But if you don't sincerely look for the truth, if you just half heartedly conclude things based on science and whatever else you drew your conclusions from, you may not find the truth.

LOL (with the risk of offending you again), I don't know what "truth" you think you found, but I don't think there's much "truth" in Fantasyland where you're living in.  I think one day, after you solve the whole hearing voices thing, you should try actually searching for some truth (you know, the true kind of truth ).

@tolu619:

And the voices, my brother's and another guy's, coincidentally came on the night my brother spoke with Jesus in his dream. Come on, what are the chances?

It's not very likely to hear voices in any setting... unless you're crazy of course. Not to mention that you most likely are lying.

I mean your spirit living on forever after

Hmmm... Well a more proper question would've been whether or not I beleive in such a thing as a "spirit" in the first place (my answer to that being no).

But opinions on religion, politics, art and other things never become childish in any day and age.

They can certainly be, especially those rearding religion.

I didn't assume that. I assumed the opposite. So I did some extensive research on many religions and found the truth by EXPERIENCE. Either that, or there are too many coincidences in my life. God tells us (I'm talking about me, my personal experiences & others of my faith as a group now) things that we couldn't have known otherwise and we find out that it's true. He heals what even medical science can't.

I've heard of many people of all religious faiths making claims like yours. There's even a local celebrity here in Romanian who converted to hinduism and claims that that helped him get rid of his cancer. Your claims are nothing extraordinary, and many people of all religions can give as "cinvincing" evidence as you can. You (people who beleive in certain religions) can't all be right, but you can certainly all be wrong.

If you want me to tell you specific instances in detail, I can. But either my life is full of amazing coincidences or I serve a living God.

If you like you can PM me. This thread is dead, we should leave it that way.

I still believe you will find God if you search for Him with an open mind. But right now, your mind is convinced that he can't possible exist.

Maybe when I'll be hit by dementia or something like that. I'm sure I'll beleive anything then.

You make those final comments with a condescending tone.  You seem to feel that you know more about belief than anyone who is an atheist.  To you if they did any spiritual searching they would find god because you've convinced yourself he exists and will not take any view other then that no matter what.  Your criticisms speak of yourself and as evidence in defiance of your ill-conceived conclusion I present my own life.  Raised a Roman Catholic, studied buddhism in high school and continue to practice meditation, researched glossolalia in college and induced it in myself (it's been scientifically shown to be a learned trait and no miracle at all) and yet have no belief in God.  God didn't see fit to convince me when I was a child being indoctrinated in to catholicism by my parents, he didn't seek to convince me when I explored other cultures (including some south american shamanism) he didn't see fit to convince me with pentecostalism, nor with episcopalianism , nor baptism.  This god even kept The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins from burning in a house that burnt down and allowed me to find it and read it.  I'd say he's done a pretty good job at convincing us otherwise if he does exist.