Im curious, ive never played a ut game but i like playing shooers online, ex. halo cod4, would i like this game or is targeted towards a niche group of people?

That's what happens when you try to hype a average as a masterpiece.

dabaus513 said: Im curious, ive never played a ut game but i like playing shooers online, ex. halo cod4, would i like this game or is targeted towards a niche group of people?

It's actually niche among shooters because of its speed.  You basically move 2 times as fast in UT games as in the next fastest shooter on the market.  It's ZERO STRATEGY bloody fast murder.  Basically take everything Gears of War is, and flip it to the opposite.  That's UT3. 

you cant compare console with PC, Shooter is the at its peek on console. while PC users been playing FPS for a long long time with alot of popular franchise. No matter how good they increase the graphic people will get bored of the same gameplay, I think PC already reached its peek and its going down hill from here.

Then on the console side its a different story, FPS is the new hot thing and on its way to the peak.

Pk9394 said: you cant compare console with PC, Shooter is the at its peek on console. while PC users been playing FPS for a long long time with alot of popular franchise. No matter how good they increase the graphic people will get bored of the same gameplay, I think PC already reached its peek and its going down hill from here. Then on the console side its a different story, FPS is the new hot thing and on its way to the peak.

With sales vehicles like Steam which don't charge for publishing and printing a company like Valve makes far more money on their PC versions than their console versions of games.  PC FPS sales are also great for great games like Bioshock, Orange Box Etc.  The Problem is UT3 simply isn't that great a game.  As far as FPSes not hitting their peak on consoles... well I'm inclined to agree, but that doesn't make it the future of the genre.  Especially not with games like Crysis and Far Cry 2 making huge technology breakthroughs that simply won't be possible on current gen consoles.

naznatips said: dabaus513 said: Im curious, ive never played a ut game but i like playing shooers online, ex. halo cod4, would i like this game or is targeted towards a niche group of people? It's actually niche among shooters because of its speed. You basically move 2 times as fast in UT games as in the next fastest shooter on the market. It's ZERO STRATEGY bloody fast murder. Basically take everything Gears of War is, and flip it to the opposite. That's UT3.

 Thanks for the reply. So just because i like halo doesnt essentially mean id like ut3, seeing as how both r fps's. Ones slower paced while the other is a fast slug fest. Ill wai for reviews but if it averages at 8.5 ill get it.

naznatips said: dabaus513 said: Im curious, ive never played a ut game but i like playing shooers online, ex. halo cod4, would i like this game or is targeted towards a niche group of people? It's actually niche among shooters because of its speed. You basically move 2 times as fast in UT games as in the next fastest shooter on the market. It's ZERO STRATEGY bloody fast murder. Basically take everything Gears of War is, and flip it to the opposite. That's UT3.

I would not say zero strategy.  Regardless, UT is very well regarded except for Unreal 2 it looks like:

Title	Plat	Company	Reviews	Avg. Vote	Avg Score
1. Unreal Tournament	PC	GT Interactive	22	8.8	93.6%
2. Unreal Tournament 2004	PC	Atari	54	8.8	92.7%
3. Unreal	PC	GT Interactive	25	8.1	88.8%
4. Unreal Tournament 2003	PC	Atari	45	8.4	88.2%
5. Unreal Tournament	DC	Atari	23	8.1	88.1%
6. Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict	XBOX	Midway	64	8.2	86.7%
7. Unreal Tournament 3	PC	Midway	15	8.6	85.9%
8. Unreal Championship	XBOX	Atari	65	8.0	82.8%
9. Unreal Tournament	PS2	Atari	45	6.8	76.4%
10. Unreal II: The Awakening	PC	Atari	47	7.3	76.4%
11. Unreal Mission Pack: Return to Na Pali	PC	GT Interactive	14	7.2	68.9%
12. Unreal II: The Awakening	XBOX	Atari	32	7.0	65.1%

 

The 2 PS3 scores I see so far are 88 and 90, 1 each listed on gamerankings and metacritic.

It's no faster than Quake 3 from what I remember, but perhaps that's another fast shooter. 

I completely forgot about Quake 3. You are correct, it's about the same speed, but Quake 3 is a REALLY fast shooter, just as UT3 is.

naznatips said: I completely forgot about Quake 3. You are correct, it's about the same speed, but Quake 3 is a REALLY fast shooter, just as UT3 is.

Ah, ok.  I hadn't played many before I played those 2 on the PC, so my experience was limited mostly to that and Counter-strike, so I couldn't remember exactly.

Running in CoD4 is pretty quick too, though, heh. 

Anecdote:

After talking to fellow PC enthusiast and specifically folks who enjoyed UT2k4 (about 10 to 12 people) I can definitely say one thing is for certain. People aren't convinced that enough has changed to warrant a purchase. A lot of guys cited that the end of the semester combined with low cash flow from other games and online time being soaked up in TF2, Halo 3, CoD4, etc...they were having a hard time justifying another purchase that from what they could see was UT2k4 with minor upgrades and fixes.

In short, there is a lot of competition for this game and it seems like most people aren't overly impressed with the upgrades both technically and with gameplay. Everyone I asked (and I wasn't doing this scientifically or anything) about the gameplay modes said they would have liked to see more modes with more options, I personally think there are a lot as it is, but I can understand that a lot of people who have played this game for years are ready for a new fresh take on the game. And to be fair there are some new modes, but the ones I have seen seem mostly like twists on old modes.

I personallly still plan to get it next year some time, but probably not until it drops in price and I have some free time.