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SpartanFX said:
Chrizum said:

The PS3 is doing OK in EMEEA. It's doing horrible in the other markets. And it will absolutely never pass 100 million.


it has a good chance to pass 100 million.the reason is the penetration of sony in growing markets.during the past year PS2 lauched officially in few growing markets and hence the shipment figures for PS2 is close to wii the past quarter.they will sell the PS3 in those mrakets for a long long time after PS4 is out.beside the $199 price point is still not in effect.and by the end of the year they are already half way there( around 50 million shipped) all with base line price of $299.

PS3 will never pass 70 million...

Don't forget it is not the market leader and Nintendo can tap those same growing markets, sooner and with lower price. Also, next gen starts in 2 years.



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Chrizum said:

The PS3 is doing OK in EMEEA. It's doing horrible in the other markets. And it will absolutely never pass 100 million.


Horrible? you must be kidding me



mchaza said:

PS3 will be 60 million by 2011 end 

                    75 million by 2012 end 

    90 million by 2013 end 

                    100 million by 2014 end 

                    110 million by 2015 end 

                    150-200  million by 2020 end 

PS3 will pass 100 million by 2014 i say, its only warming up and it will sell 15-20 million next year

200 million eh?



yo_john117 said:
mchaza said:

PS3 will be 60 million by 2011 end 

                    75 million by 2012 end 

    90 million by 2013 end 

                    100 million by 2014 end 

                    110 million by 2015 end 

                    150-200  million by 2020 end 

PS3 will pass 100 million by 2014 i say, its only warming up and it will sell 15-20 million next year

200 million eh?

lulz 200 Mil by 2020... WTF!!



mchaza said:

PS3 will be 60 million by 2011 end 

                    75 million by 2012 end 

    90 million by 2013 end 

                    100 million by 2014 end 

                    110 million by 2015 end 

                    150-200  million by 2020 end 

PS3 will pass 100 million by 2014 i say, its only warming up and it will sell 15-20 million next year

best post on vgc in the last 3 years... sorry badgenome



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

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mjk45 said:
AnthonyW86 said:

With the recent adjustments of the PS3 and just before the holidays take off, i thought it might be interesting to look at the current situation of the PS3 compared to the PS2 at the same time frame of it's lifecycle. And my conclusion is that it's actually doing ok. First let's start off with some numbers:

System: Region Number of weeks on sale Total sales
Playstation 2 Americas 204 28,322,903
Playstation 3 Americas 204 15,748,706
Playstation 2
Japan 205 15,146,630
Playstation 3
Japan 205 5,711,698
Playstation 2
EMEEA 185 24,898,883
Playstation 3
EMEEA 185 18,797,233

Playstation 2 Total Sales: 68,368,416

Playstation 3 Total Sales: 40,257,637

Playstation 2 Total Lead: 28,110,779

As everyone can see the PS2 has a clear lead here. Breaking it down into regions, the PS3 has lost the most ground in the Americas mainly due to the Xbox 360 doing so extremely well there. Looking at Japan, and keeping in mind the scale of the market the PS3 has it's biggest fall percentage wise here with close to 10 million behind, and PS2 having sold almost three times as much in the same time frame. Lastly EMEAA actually paints the most interesting picture off al, being only 6 million behind and with the PS3 clearly outpacing it's predecessor right now.

Now you probably think nothing really special there, besides PS3 picking up some steam at the moment. But here comes the catch. The Playstation 2 launched at $299!! That's the same price as the Playstation 3 is selling for right now... 4 years after launch! Probably even more interesting, the Playstation 2 got a price cut to $199 in mid 2002, just over one and a half years after it's launch.

Know i'm not saying the PS3 will ever outsell the PS2, nor am i saying Sony didn't lose any ground to the very well performing Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. But it does make for an interesting case doesn't it?

The PS3 is actually do well right now while still at $299 and with big titles as GT5 and Move software support still to come. And with so much head room left price wise, isn't it likely for the PS3 to start gaining serious ground on the PS2 after a price cuts?

I'm going to drop the ball here and say it(although i don't think i will be the first). Playstation 3 will pass 100 million LTD in the end. Even more , i see a slight(all be it very slight) chance for PS3 to eventually to finish in 1st place this generation, if Wii keeps declining and we see a new Nintendo system within two years. Even if it takes another 10 years, and looking at recent PS2 shipment numbers(over 4 million this year) it really doesn't even sound that crazy.

Please share your thoughts and expectations on this, and remember i said really slight chance off finishing in first place.

THE PLAYSTATION 2 LAUNCHED AT $299 is misleading as it launched at that price in the US

PS2 Japan  39,800 yen US $299  Canada $449  UK 299 pnd Europe 430 euro Australia $749

PS3 Japan 49,800 yen US $499 -$599 Canada $549-659 UK 425 premium Europe 499-599 Australia$829 -999

the two price points reflect core - premium consoles

Yes, but you must also look at things such as inflation and exchange rates. I can only speak for Canada but i can assume similar situations for the countries. I remember that
2000 - 1CAD = 0.66USD

2010 - 1CAD = 0.98USD

So no, i didn't buy the PS2 the year it came out, I bought it around 2003 and payed $300CAD. Now things are diffeent. CAD and US get virtually the same price on new games.



Mr.Metralha said:
SpartanFX said:
Chrizum said:

The PS3 is doing OK in EMEEA. It's doing horrible in the other markets. And it will absolutely never pass 100 million.


it has a good chance to pass 100 million.the reason is the penetration of sony in growing markets.during the past year PS2 lauched officially in few growing markets and hence the shipment figures for PS2 is close to wii the past quarter.they will sell the PS3 in those mrakets for a long long time after PS4 is out.beside the $199 price point is still not in effect.and by the end of the year they are already half way there( around 50 million shipped) all with base line price of $299.

PS3 will never pass 70 million...

Don't forget it is not the market leader and Nintendo can tap those same growing markets, sooner and with lower price. Also, next gen starts in 2 years.

Next Gen for console will not start in 2 years. most likely 2013-2014 we will hear some news, but also remember that even after new consoles are released, it takes time for it to get games, because developers will still be making PS3 games when PS4 comes out. and i think it will pass 70 million. especially if it gets a price cut to $199.



God let's not twist things! It's doin well in europe. In japan to be honest no home console has been performing well. PS3 is only lookin impressive there cuz the wii is all but dead in japan. In NA the numbers are ok considering how strong the wii and xbox are strong in that region. I'd say the PS3 has done so well after a really poor first 2 years.

But yeah 100 million, well i think PS3 is hitting its peak, but the small markets are really eating up PS3's so anything is possible. And it really does seem that the PS3's life will be long. I'd say 70-80 mil not more, cuz i really think the xbox will outshine the PS3 in NA after kinect, and well FF13 didnt really boost the PS3 to massive numbers... In EU though, especially outside uk, i think the PS3 will be the biggest console from now on



God guys, the way some of you are talking

The PS3 is going to cap at 60-70 million, and the boost we're seeing isn't a damn permanent one. The Move isn't going to boost sales for another 52 weeks, or even another 26. PS3 sales will drop back down to its original level, perhaps a little higher, and it most certainly will not have an 8 year life-span. The new consoles are going to be announced next year, and they will probably come out around 2012.

Sales always plummet with the new consoles on the horizon. The PS3 won't have a 10 year life-span. It has lost this generation. There is no way it will pass 100 million.



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kowenicki said:

This forum has gone completely gaga in the last few days...  mchaza? what the hell?

OT

IF we are all talking relative performance... which you are in your OP then I dont see how being:

down 62% in Japan

down 44% in Americas

down 24% in EMEAA

is anything other than very poor.

 

PS3 has been doing okay, not very poorly, considering the many factors it had against it.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you