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sethnintendo on 30 October 2010
Beuli2 said:
freebs2 said:
Beuli2 said:

Nintendo's low sales now have more to do with Nintendo's own failings for not releasing interesting games than because of Sony and Microsoft.

I don't agree, if the problems were games, sales would have decresed before, in 2008 or in 2009, not in 2010 the year when actually much more quality software came out, also Ps3 should have been alrady at 1st place. The main problem with Nintendo is communication, they were not able (or they don't even have tried) to communicate more than the family-friendly / party side of the console, most of Wii owners don't even know what good games are on it beside mario and wiifit, that's also why many core games don't sell. Now that Sony and Microsoft are also staring to communicate the family/party aspect of their consoles, the wii will defenetly lose some market shares.

Yeah, like Metroid other M and Galaxy 2, that nobody outside the Nintendo fanboys give a crap about, and therefore no one is gonna buy a Wii for them. This means they failed miserable as first party software, wich main job is to sell hardware.


You are forgetting about Wii Party for the masses.



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sethnintendo on 30 October 2010
Squilliam said:

Yep thats dominance at a close alright. Well, already closed as at whenever you feel like calling it. It sold heaps, quickly but then didn't have the puff the keep it going and in a sort of funny tortoise/hare thing it started getting outpaced.

 I wonder sometimes if a bit more performance and a modern GPU architecture alongside a couple more buttons might have seen it off at #1 well into 2011 if not indefinately.

 


If it didn't have the puff to keep it going past 110 million then so be it.  You act like 75 plus million in a few years isn't enough.  It has outsold all their previous home console systems and will easily sell 100 plus million lifetime.  You act like it is no small feat what the Wii has pulled off.  Yea, I'll wait 4-5 more years for the 360 (if it is still around which it won't be) or PS3 to outsell it (probably won't even happen).



Squilliam on 30 October 2010
sethnintendo said:
Squilliam said:

Yep thats dominance at a close alright. Well, already closed as at whenever you feel like calling it. It sold heaps, quickly but then didn't have the puff the keep it going and in a sort of funny tortoise/hare thing it started getting outpaced.

 I wonder sometimes if a bit more performance and a modern GPU architecture alongside a couple more buttons might have seen it off at #1 well into 2011 if not indefinately.

 


If it didn't have the puff to keep it going past 110 million then so be it.  You act like 75 plus million in a few years isn't enough.  It has outsold all their previous home console systems and will easily sell 100 plus million lifetime.  You act like it is no small feat what the Wii has pulled off.  Yea, I'll wait 4-5 more years for the 360 (if it is still around which it won't be) or PS3 to outsell it (probably won't even happen).

You're making some pretty big assumptions here.

I was simply talking about the Wii performance circa 2010 and what could have been had things been different in a few minor ways circa 2006.





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Antabus on 30 October 2010

Nintendo did not dominate home consoles this gen. They never got to 50% market share.



UncleScrooge on 30 October 2010

I really think we should wait until christmas is over before we give any statements of any kind regarding Wii sales.

The decline in sales clearly are a result of an ongoing software draught. Mario Galaxy 2 was the only million selling game released this year before we got Wii Party. That is a severe software draught and hurt sales a lot.

If the games released during the Christmas period are enough to push the Wii up again then there's a good chance it will lead the market in 2011 as well. If those titles fail to push hardware sales back up then there's a good chance the Wii won't lead the market in 2011.

How severe this software draught was can be seen by looking at this weeks numbers. Wii sales jumped significantly on the back of Just Dance 2 and Wii Party and according to Iwata these kinds of games usually take some weeks to really push hardware sales. There literally have been no games in 2010 to push momentum.

Posting predictions on the basis of "assuming" that holiday titles will / won't push hardware sales is just guessing.



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huaxiong90 on 30 October 2010
Raze said:
Carl2291 said:

The Wii used to outsell PS3 and 360 combined during most weeks.

Now.

Now it struggles to outsell ONE of the 2 consoles.

 

The domination is gone, but it will still sell really well.

 

Next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wii finish in 2nd or 3rd for the year.

you underestimate the fact that the new Zelda game will be out in 2011. The series is like GOLD for whatever system it comes out on, Im sure Zelda alone will be able to push the sales to stay afloat of the competition in 2011.

Zelda can push consoles, but on the same level as a classic Mario game or possibly DKCR? That's a tough one...would be very surprised and glad if it did.



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freebs2 on 30 October 2010
Beuli2 said:
freebs2 said:
Beuli2 said:

Nintendo's low sales now have more to do with Nintendo's own failings for not releasing interesting games than because of Sony and Microsoft.

I don't agree, if the problems were games, sales would have decresed before, in 2008 or in 2009, not in 2010 the year when actually much more quality software came out, also Ps3 should have been alrady at 1st place. The main problem with Nintendo is communication, they were not able (or they don't even have tried) to communicate more than the family-friendly / party side of the console, most of Wii owners don't even know what good games are on it beside mario and wiifit, that's also why many core games don't sell. Now that Sony and Microsoft are also staring to communicate the family/party aspect of their consoles, the wii will defenetly lose some market shares.

Yeah, like Metroid other M and Galaxy 2, that nobody outside the Nintendo fanboys give a crap about, and therefore no one is gonna buy a Wii for them. This means they failed miserable as first party software, wich main job is to sell hardware.

That's not what I was talking about. So you say that a console with some top-selleing first party games like Wiisports, Wiifit, MarioKart Wii ,a console that actually many peopole buyed only to play those games, is failing now because 1st party software has not managed to sell the hardware?



milkyjoe on 30 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:

At an end Wii dominations is, and not short enough it was!!

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Yes I would say Wii won't dominate like it used to now.

Dude... that paraphrased Yoda quote was funny last week, but if you're going to keep using it, someone's going to point out what happened after Yoda said it...

Although he was right eventually. It just took two decades!



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Pavolink on 30 October 2010
NYANKS said:
Raze said:
Carl2291 said:

The Wii used to outsell PS3 and 360 combined during most weeks.

Now.

Now it struggles to outsell ONE of the 2 consoles.

 

The domination is gone, but it will still sell really well.

 

Next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wii finish in 2nd or 3rd for the year.

you underestimate the fact that the new Zelda game will be out in 2011. The series is like GOLD for whatever system it comes out on, Im sure Zelda alone will be able to push the sales to stay afloat of the competition in 2011.

I dunno, I never thought of Zelda as on the level of Mario in terms of pushing sales.  Or even close actually.  Can anybody help with this?

Zelda dont push sales like Mario, but Twilight Princess push the Wii at launch and Nintendo recognize as one of the most greatest launch titles. I dont remember exactly, but they said that for each two (or three) Wii consoles sold at launch they sold one Twilight Princess copie. :D



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SaviorX on 30 October 2010

The Wii has never actually...dominated.

Sure, saleswise it has managed to beat both consoles combined in the past with hardware and software.

But when I think of dominate, I think of the whole industry being behind a console, like they were with the PS2.

The Wii did not have the industry behind it at all. If anything, they tried real hard to kill it.

So I won't say Wii dominated. It is just winning by wide margins :)



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