Right, these people don't know what MS has shipped now or what is gonna be soon. This is a pointless discussion.

Sony fans drive me nuts with these shipment figures!!!

so you are accusing them of lying and commiting fraud??

Yeah, I'm not gonna dare say they're stuffing the channel for for of having my head cut off! I'm open to all possibilities. One being they're in a position, what with having Move out now, to give retailers their christmas stock, whereas MS obviously isn't.

LOL the haters are really crying hard out right now.

but how many times have we heard the stuffing channel exccuse only to see the gap to shrink in the shipment figures of the follwong quarter? last quarter they said sony over stufed ,,,yet sony shipped more than xbox yet again in this quarter.if the chanel is stuffed stores will not accept more shipment but much much less.

I wouldn't even say they've stuffed the channel. I just think they've shipped a lot more than MS has. Hence, MS is just meeting demand while Sony is shipping as much as they can.

Furthermore, we don't know what MS has shipped at the moment with the Kinect coming. This is a dumb thread and that's why this site focuses on sold as opposed to shipped.

apearently you don't understand how the shipping works.Sony can't just ship whatever they like to stores,,,the store puts in the order and sony ships as many as the store wanted.if a best buy ordered 10000 PS3s sony will ship 10000 and not 50000.So the store should have felt the demand for the number they ordered.How many quarters stores are gonna make a mistake and ask for more PS3 than there is demand??think about it.

how hard is it to accept that there is a demand for PS3 WW?

its very hard lol for them to accept, just waiting for pictures of ps3, before someone posts them as proof, lolz

2011 PS3 will pass Xbox360 and i'm 100% sure.

In some respects global LTD shipments isn't so important. Sony got it's arse kicked in the most important (i.e. highest SW attach rate) market, being USA. Depending on what figures you use PS3 is running between 7 and 10% behind 360 in HW sales, but about 35-40% behind in SW sales.

Certainly PS3's future is secured now, which was by no means guaranteed as little as 1 year ago. But PS4 has got it's work cut out for it to reclaim more of the American market (I doubt it will substantially increase market share, the PS brand's decline in America is multi-generational I think, possibly even permanent). It's also going to do well elsewhere in the world, and by the time the next generation roles around China and India will be important consumer electronics markets. I predict America's importance will diminish somewhat within the next decade, though it will always be a highly important and valuable market. The future is Asia.

Having said that the day Sony reports that it's shipped more PS3s than MS has shipped 360's will be a significant day. Not least because it's a day many (most?) thought would never come, or at least they thought it would never come while 360 was still on the market.

I predict PS3 LTD shipments won't exceed 360- until after PS3's next price cut. And on that point I will note the following from the Sony quarterly report: "and production costs for PS3 are dropping alot [sic]". Expect a $75-$100 price cut in 2011.