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Poll: 3DS or PSP2? Which handheld will YOU be buying in 2011?

3DS all the Way! Nintendo for Life! 415 63.55%
 
PSP2 of course! Sony's set to dominate! 238 36.45%
 
Total:653
jarrod on 27 October 2010
dharh said:

Heh. My sarcasm detection device is going off, but either way. It does seem like that's what im saying, however, PSP2 has the bonus of being a multi-media device which means I _could_ find a reason to buy it regardless of the specs or games.

But lets dig a little deeper? I have never, not ever, cared about the actual specs of a mobile device. Unwanted 3D adding to costs is a slightly different issue, but rather than using specs as the issue, I care more about library. So far it seems to be 3DS is going to have at least a few '3D' remakes of old title, which interests me none at all. Either I want new titles in specific genres (RPG/RTS) or ports of games from systems entirely defunct, updated graphically perhaps though again 3D is not the upgrade im looking for.

The game library more than anything else will determine the ultimate success of a console, mobile or not. The 3DS is not 'broken'. Rather just like the DS/DSi before it, at launch, there is very little appealing to it, for _me_.

You might note that I also rather have quite a few things to complain about my DS/DSi. It has alot of added cost features, touch being one of them, that I find useless, yet my DS library is about double my PSP library.

Well, in the "for you" area, while it's low on RTS (though it has some interesting TBS), 3DS is basically overflowing with RPG announcements (albeit JP side).  And really, some of the ports even seem to be getting significant visual enhancements too (Zelda, Starfox).

I dunno, it just seems to me in terms of library, 3DS already has so many bases covered that it's almost laughable to really criticize the system at this (still early) stage in terms of it's library.  It's well ahead of where either DS or PSP were at this stage in the game.

Also, 3DS seems like it'll be pretty multimedia focused, much moreso than any previous Nintendo handheld.  Movie/television content is already confirmed, there's camera/photo stuff, like DSi it'll no doubt have music playback, web browser, etc... what do you expect to see PSP2 doing that 3DS won't exactly?



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dharh on 27 October 2010
jarrod said:
dharh said:

Heh. My sarcasm detection device is going off, but either way. It does seem like that's what im saying, however, PSP2 has the bonus of being a multi-media device which means I _could_ find a reason to buy it regardless of the specs or games.

But lets dig a little deeper? I have never, not ever, cared about the actual specs of a mobile device. Unwanted 3D adding to costs is a slightly different issue, but rather than using specs as the issue, I care more about library. So far it seems to be 3DS is going to have at least a few '3D' remakes of old title, which interests me none at all. Either I want new titles in specific genres (RPG/RTS) or ports of games from systems entirely defunct, updated graphically perhaps though again 3D is not the upgrade im looking for.

The game library more than anything else will determine the ultimate success of a console, mobile or not. The 3DS is not 'broken'. Rather just like the DS/DSi before it, at launch, there is very little appealing to it, for _me_.

You might note that I also rather have quite a few things to complain about my DS/DSi. It has alot of added cost features, touch being one of them, that I find useless, yet my DS library is about double my PSP library.

Well, in the "for you" area, while it's low on RTS (though it has some interesting TBS), 3DS is basically overflowing with RPG announcements (albeit JP side).  And really, some of the ports even seem to be getting significant visual enhancements too (Zelda, Starfox).

I dunno, it just seems to me in terms of library, 3DS already has so many bases covered that it's almost laughable to really criticize the system at this (still early) stage in terms of it's library.  It's well ahead of where either DS or PSP were at this stage in the game.

Also, 3DS seems like it'll be pretty multimedia focused, much moreso than any previous Nintendo handheld.  Movie/television content is already confirmed, there's camera/photo stuff, like DSi it'll no doubt have music playback, web browser, etc... what do you expect to see PSP2 doing that 3DS won't exactly?

All I know is I looked at launch games and thought: 2nd year.

Somehow I have my doubts about being able to effectively sideload content from my PC, this is nintendo we are talking about. But I may end up being surprised. I would not get my hopes up about the video content on the Nintendo Network just yet. Phones are already matching the resolution of the 3DS, if not the 3D effect or the wideness of the screen. Which means ultimately it will probably not be the portable device I watch stuff on.

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.



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Khuutra on 27 October 2010
dharh said:

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

....now before I respond to this, what do you hold as the appropriate game distribution alternative to UMD?



jarrod on 27 October 2010
dharh said:
jarrod said:
dharh said:

Heh. My sarcasm detection device is going off, but either way. It does seem like that's what im saying, however, PSP2 has the bonus of being a multi-media device which means I _could_ find a reason to buy it regardless of the specs or games.

But lets dig a little deeper? I have never, not ever, cared about the actual specs of a mobile device. Unwanted 3D adding to costs is a slightly different issue, but rather than using specs as the issue, I care more about library. So far it seems to be 3DS is going to have at least a few '3D' remakes of old title, which interests me none at all. Either I want new titles in specific genres (RPG/RTS) or ports of games from systems entirely defunct, updated graphically perhaps though again 3D is not the upgrade im looking for.

The game library more than anything else will determine the ultimate success of a console, mobile or not. The 3DS is not 'broken'. Rather just like the DS/DSi before it, at launch, there is very little appealing to it, for _me_.

You might note that I also rather have quite a few things to complain about my DS/DSi. It has alot of added cost features, touch being one of them, that I find useless, yet my DS library is about double my PSP library.

Well, in the "for you" area, while it's low on RTS (though it has some interesting TBS), 3DS is basically overflowing with RPG announcements (albeit JP side).  And really, some of the ports even seem to be getting significant visual enhancements too (Zelda, Starfox).

I dunno, it just seems to me in terms of library, 3DS already has so many bases covered that it's almost laughable to really criticize the system at this (still early) stage in terms of it's library.  It's well ahead of where either DS or PSP were at this stage in the game.

Also, 3DS seems like it'll be pretty multimedia focused, much moreso than any previous Nintendo handheld.  Movie/television content is already confirmed, there's camera/photo stuff, like DSi it'll no doubt have music playback, web browser, etc... what do you expect to see PSP2 doing that 3DS won't exactly?

All I know is I looked at launch games and thought: 2nd year.

Somehow I have my doubts about being able to effectively sideload content from my PC, this is nintendo we are talking about. But I may end up being surprised. I would not get my hopes up about the video content on the Nintendo Network just yet. Phones are already matching the resolution of the 3DS, if not the 3D effect or the wideness of the screen. Which means ultimately it will probably not be the portable device I watch stuff on.

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

The only launch lineup we have is for Japan (which is 9 games so far).  And really, we know almost nothing about timelines beyond launch (or near launch) estimations for some titles.  "Year 2" implies heavy, heavy assumptions on your part.

In Japan they announced major deals with Fuji TV and Nippon Television Network for streaming content and at E3 they made a point of promoting film content from partners like Disney, Warner Bros and Dreamworks.  The implication here is a pretty heavy focus from Nintendo on video content and partnerships for it imo, which is a pretty significant shift in strategy from where they were with DS/Wii... I think at the very least, we'll get things like Netflix on 3DS in America and probably a "Movie" section in the 3DS Shop.

Nintendo's been pretty open with music and photo files on DSi via SD card, and they're placing even more emphasis on SD use in 3DS already (even bundling a 2GB card and saying all downloads will be played from SD, internal memory is being mainly reserved for save data, system files, programs, etc). I dunno if they'll be quite as open with video content, though there'll surely be hacks for allowing that (as there are on DSi already).  And really, if you want to get the most multimedia experience out of any dedicated games system, you're going to be hacking it (same for Wii, 360, DS, PSP, etc).



Raze on 27 October 2010

3DS for sure.



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dharh on 27 October 2010
Khuutra said:
dharh said:

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

....now before I respond to this, what do you hold as the appropriate game distribution alternative to UMD?


Secure SD/Sony Micro Stick and pure digital downloads. I would be going with the downloads. UMD adds mechanical complexity that is uneeded. UMD as a format did not and will not ever take the world by storm. The physical medium needs of the minority gamer base need to be satiated elsewhere by either some form of flash stick like Nintendo has been doing since forever, or not doing it at all.



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jarrod on 27 October 2010

Oh, for those wondering, the JP launch lineup so far is...

  • Nintendogs plus Cats (Nintendo)
  • PilotWings Resort (Nintendo)
  • Professor Layton and The Mask of Miracle (Level-5)
  • Ridge Racer 3D (Namco Bandai)
  • Samurai Warriors Chronicle (Tecmo Koei)
  • Steel Diver (Nintendo)
  • Super Monkey Ball (Sega)
  • Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Nintendo)
...though you can expect that to grow some.  We'll probably get some lower tier releases (Chocobo Racing, 3D Shanghai, My Garden, Deca Sports, Puzzle Bobble, etc) plus Snake Eater 3D and maybe DOA Dimensions filling it out.  GBA had a launch lineup of 25 games, I think we'll see a similar figure for 3DS.


Khuutra on 27 October 2010
dharh said:
Khuutra said:
dharh said:

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

....now before I respond to this, what do you hold as the appropriate game distribution alternative to UMD?

Secure SD/Sony Micro Stick and pure digital downloads. I would be going with the downloads. UMD adds mechanical complexity that is uneeded. UMD as a format did not and will not ever take the world by storm. The physical medium needs of the minority gamer base need to be satiated elsewhere by either some form of flash stick like Nintendo has been doing since forever, or not doing it at all.

So you contrast a "lackluster upgrade" with a 720p screen, dual or touch nubs, and full digital distribution?

Man you are asking for a sorta-kinda upgrade to the PSPGo. Shit, you're asking for an iGo, if you will.



dharh on 27 October 2010
jarrod said:
dharh said:
All I know is I looked at launch games and thought: 2nd year.


Somehow I have my doubts about being able to effectively sideload content from my PC, this is nintendo we are talking about. But I may end up being surprised. I would not get my hopes up about the video content on the Nintendo Network just yet. Phones are already matching the resolution of the 3DS, if not the 3D effect or the wideness of the screen. Which means ultimately it will probably not be the portable device I watch stuff on.

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

The only launch lineup we have is for Japan (which is 9 games so far).  And really, we know almost nothing about timelines beyond launch (or near launch) estimations for some titles.  "Year 2" implies heavy, heavy assumptions on your part.

In Japan they announced major deals with Fuji TV and Nippon Television Network for streaming content and at E3 they made a point of promoting film content from partners like Disney, Warner Bros and Dreamworks.  The implication here is a pretty heavy focus from Nintendo on video content and partnerships for it imo, which is a pretty significant shift in strategy from where they were with DS/Wii... I think at the very least, we'll get things like Netflix on 3DS in America and probably a "Movie" section in the 3DS Shop.

Nintendo's been pretty open with music and photo files on DSi via SD card, and they're placing even more emphasis on SD use in 3DS already (even bundling a 2GB card and saying all downloads will be played from SD, internal memory is being mainly reserved for save data, system files, programs, etc). I dunno if they'll be quite as open with video content, though there'll surely be hacks for allowing that (as there are on DSi already).  And really, if you want to get the most multimedia experience out of any dedicated games system, you're going to be hacking it (same for Wii, 360, DS, PSP, etc).

I make that assumption based on 2 major factors. One, I ended up doing it with the prior 2 major Nintendo handhelds the DS and GBA. Two, you can pretty much tell the RPG lineup for NA based on the lineup for japan. Which is to say, we will probably see a final fantasy game at or near launch but nothing else for a while.

In Japan, the DS has a bloody TV receiver attachment. We peons over here get squat in that department. The only real option will be whatever comes from the Nintendo Network or whatever you can sideload it with.

The PSP requires zero hacking if you convert the video prior or just download from PSN.

Nintendo is making a go of it, I won't argue that point. Regardless it has some catching up to do. Netflix on 3DS could drop them in reaching distance though, if that pans out well enough.



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jarrod on 27 October 2010
dharh said:
jarrod said:
dharh said:
All I know is I looked at launch games and thought: 2nd year.


Somehow I have my doubts about being able to effectively sideload content from my PC, this is nintendo we are talking about. But I may end up being surprised. I would not get my hopes up about the video content on the Nintendo Network just yet. Phones are already matching the resolution of the 3DS, if not the 3D effect or the wideness of the screen. Which means ultimately it will probably not be the portable device I watch stuff on.

The reason I have some hope for the PSP2 is because its not been speced yet. Which means there is potential for them to get it right. They _could_ do a lackluster 'upgrade' to the PSP, or they could wow us with a 720p screen, dual nubs or touch nubs, and do the smart thing by dumping UMD. So until they make the release statement and cruelly dash my dreams, my hopes will carry me aloft.

The only launch lineup we have is for Japan (which is 9 games so far).  And really, we know almost nothing about timelines beyond launch (or near launch) estimations for some titles.  "Year 2" implies heavy, heavy assumptions on your part.

In Japan they announced major deals with Fuji TV and Nippon Television Network for streaming content and at E3 they made a point of promoting film content from partners like Disney, Warner Bros and Dreamworks.  The implication here is a pretty heavy focus from Nintendo on video content and partnerships for it imo, which is a pretty significant shift in strategy from where they were with DS/Wii... I think at the very least, we'll get things like Netflix on 3DS in America and probably a "Movie" section in the 3DS Shop.

Nintendo's been pretty open with music and photo files on DSi via SD card, and they're placing even more emphasis on SD use in 3DS already (even bundling a 2GB card and saying all downloads will be played from SD, internal memory is being mainly reserved for save data, system files, programs, etc). I dunno if they'll be quite as open with video content, though there'll surely be hacks for allowing that (as there are on DSi already).  And really, if you want to get the most multimedia experience out of any dedicated games system, you're going to be hacking it (same for Wii, 360, DS, PSP, etc).

I make that assumption based on 2 major factors. One, I ended up doing it with the prior 2 major Nintendo handhelds the DS and GBA. Two, you can pretty much tell the RPG lineup for NA based on the lineup for japan. Which is to say, we will probably see a final fantasy game at or near launch but nothing else for a while.

In Japan, the DS has a bloody TV receiver attachment. We peons over here get squat in that department. The only real option will be whatever comes from the Nintendo Network or whatever you can sideload it with.

The PSP requires zero hacking if you convert the video prior or just download from PSN.

Nintendo is making a go of it, I won't argue that point. Regardless it has some catching up to do. Netflix on 3DS could drop them in reaching distance though, if that pans out well enough.

What are you talking about, GBA had multiple RPGs day one in Japan (Monster Guardians, Rockman.EXE, Yu-Gi-OH! DDM) and hell, it even had an RTS day one (Napoleon).  Even in the west, GBA got a good amount of RPGs pretty quick... within it's first year alone it had Golden Sun, Tactics Ogre KoL, Breath of Fire, Lunar Legend, MMBN1-2, Phantasy Star Collection, etc.  GBA would be more case for getting a Nintendo handheld "Year 1" if you like RPGs.  Granted, RPGs took a little longer to get rolling on DS (FFIII opened the floodgates in 2006), but there were reasons for that (like the industry wide assumed PSP domination in the handheld space), reasons which don't exactly pertain to 3DS.

For the western 3DS RPG lineup, I'd say Paper Mario within the first year is pretty much a dead cert (it's even rumored to be a western launch title).  Kingdom Hearts 3D has been said to be 2011 as well, and given how cquick Re:Coded's been localized for release, I think we could see that too.  Plus, it's still way early... I mean there's a ton of things that could hit (Fantasy Life, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Harvest Moon, Tales of the Abyss, etc, etc), we just don't know yet?

Also, DS never got a JP TV-tuner afaik, you must be think the GBA/DS music players?  In the US, we did get the DS Opera browser though, so it's not like NOA's averse to multimedia or non-gaming extensions.  Remember E3 and those movies from Disney/WB/DW? Netflix seems like an inevitability too imo, given how hugely successful it's been on Wii and the fact that Netflix were even exploring a DSi app.  There's just too much draw there, and Nintendo's made for an excellent partner thus far.

And if converting video content is all you want for multimedia out of a handheld, I dunno why you'd even consider any Nintendo or PlayStation system.  There will always be better options for that.