um.. we're not talking about killing dogs here, or that the game sucks, or whatever.

we're talking about a delay worth a few weeks to a month. that's the issue i'm specifically targeting. sure, if the game sucks, i wouldn't buy it either. my only point was that people were canceling just because of a minor delay. and it's not like yamauchi-san suddenly turned into some weirdo. he's just being his normal perfectionist self.

tell me, has any console mainline gran turismo game sucked? even the psp game was quite good.

you're trying to make me out as crazy, when all i'm complaining against is the people canceling for "a delay". not for something crazy, like what you assume. i'd appreciate reading the original post before you put any comments that are just full of nonsense.

Another thing to consider is that people aren't necessesarily complaining because of the delay. They are frustrated because Sony isn't being completely open and honest about the delay. Sony won't release specific details as to what is causing the delay or how long it is going to be. When you leave people guessing, some of them are going to vent. It's like when politicians cover up crimes. The politician might not even be guilty of the crime, but the cover up and subsequent obfuscation is what makes people angry.

Another thing to consider is that people aren't necessesarily complaining because of the delay. They are frustrated because Sony isn't being completely open and honest about the delay. Sony won't release specific details as to what is causing the delay or how long it is going to be. When you leave people guessing, some of them are going to vent. It's like when politicians cover up crimes. The politician might not even be guilty of the crime, but the cover up and subsequent obfuscation is what makes people angry.

Name a time when a company is completely open an honest about a delay. They have come out already and stated it was not due to technical reasons but an "executive decision" which means marketing more or less. Either they didn't have enough discs, or didn't like the release day competition. Length is a weird one. The why;s of it though are always a mystery to anyone outside of the dev team, as it should be really.

I didn't say other companies weren't the same. It's like politicians telling the truth. They still lie even though time after time those that come clean fare better than those that try to hide things. Another example, look at Roger Clemens vs Andy Petite. Just admit the truth, take your lumps, then move on. Don't leave it hanging.

Here is the catch though. People don't stop voting for someone after their first broken campaign promise. Its what you expect. Similarly, anyone half aware knows they will never get a proper explanation for the delay and as such shouldn't be expecting one. Any behavior contingent on an explanation is an unrealistic demand of someone who is likely just out for attention. People aren't up in arms over the delay canceling pre-orders like mad. Internet people are crying for attention and using their typical lame ass tactics. If the game released early those same people would be bitching about how horrible it was, and how it was a rip off to wait this long to play the game. Its how the internet works.

While I do agree that some people who are "canceling" orders are crying for attention, I would bet most are just tired of the bs.

I would suggest everyone cancel their pre-orders and instead just go and purchase the game day one.  That would show PD and Sony that people are tired of being run through the ringer.  That doesn't make them any less of a fan nor does it make them cry for attention.  But I can guarantee you that Sony and PD would take note and get their shit together for a change.  If people do nothing and accept this expect more of the same for GT6, mark my words.

The game is on my list, although I'm not a fan of the GT series. The constant delays are somewhat displeasing, but nothing more.

Just waiting.