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Get the basics done right? 

If you game developers want to make games like movies well its time your criticised as movie makers, which you are poor at doing. 

Proper Lighting.

 

Oh hey Ryu, I notice your standing under a giant yellow light, yet you magically are not affected by it, in fact your own self shadowing is completly off from the rooms lighting all together. Hadokens and fireballs do the proper lighting and shadowing around characters, but the not the levels? 

Why is this important?

Proper lighting can give real atmosphere to the enviroment and the characters within the enviroment.  To immerse the player within the game world it must be believable.  This can easily be solved by rigging the light source in a location that will make the player not lose vision of there character.  However  Super Street Fighter 4 has already had the lighting done on the characters and were expected to ignore the rest of the lighting that goes around in the levels of the game.  Sorry it don't work like that in movies, you want to be a movie maker get your basic lighting right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb2m6VJ-eo

Silence of the lambs, notice the lighting and how well timed with the music makes it much more scary and suspensefull.

 

Not doing sleep inducing dialogue and proper pacing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOtMmGwaSGk

BORING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ICrFGsFa-4&p=FCE98FFBC4E553EC&playnext=1&index=1

Did this really need to take this long to say ""Snake this is your mission, sneak in through here and go there""? instead of ""INFORMATION DUMPING BEGINS NOW!""

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrD4mbNaNB4

GET ON WITH IT!  DO WE HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS?  

People are not going to sit through this in a cinema watching something that doesn't really progress the story or the movie in general.  So what makes this approriate in an INTERACTIVE MEDIA?  You want to make a game with a good movie script hire a writer, editor and director just for the story.

 In fact take out cutscenes in games and just focus on making a film will get you this. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuYi-nzE90

3 minutes and 27 seconds.  It succeeds doing everything right,  In a third of the time those three games can't do.  Fill your game with GAMEPLAY CONTENT, not poorly thought out movies if you can't do it right.

 

Believeable worlds and scenerios. 

Doing it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxOVqiw0oiA

The amount of  unbelivable in Dudley using the ultra doesn't match the already in game physics.

As well that wonderful invisable wall that appears in the highly detailed worlds, ruining the immersion and the belief of the game world.  I would in fact say it is more Looney Tunes than actual Street Fighter.  Except theres no Porky Pig to tell me thats all folks.  

The audiance understands its not the real world but the world has to be believable.

If Street Fighter 4 is a PREQUEL to Street Fighter 3, then why is the character COMPLETLY DIFFERENT?   Did Dudley just forget he could use that much force?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOslCqAh9Fw

Its not believable. Which the game developer/movie creator is suppose to do. 

 

Now there are developers out there who do get this right (naughty dog,valve, blizzard) but sadly the majority of games that do get hyped here or most other gaming forums simply don't do this which holds back the true mainstream potential of video games as visual and interactive media.  A lot of these poorly thought out executions in the game can be avoided but once again theres the lingering attitude of the industry and what people are taught before they even join the industry.

 

That attitude is ""the audiance is stupid, so you must treat the audiance like there stupid.""  Don't believe me?  Just look at Sonic the hedgehog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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I don't really understand your point. How are movies and graphics in video games related?



Boutros said:

I don't really understand your point. How are movies and graphics in video games related?

Developers want to be movie makers, or so it seems, given the stupid amount of movie shit they inject inside their games.



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Beuli2 said:
Boutros said:

I don't really understand your point. How are movies and graphics in video games related?

Developers want to be movie makers, or so it seems, given the stupid amount of movie shit they inject inside their games.

Bingo.

Developers are using videogames consoles to make movies.  Poor ones.  For an industry thats so graphics obsessive also don't you find it odd they DON'T do a lot things right that should be possible for them to do especially when there budgets are in the millions?

Because they know being a game developer isnt as respected as a film creator is. 

Instead of quitting being a game developer and learn to make movies and try and work in the film industry,  they rather try make games into movies instead.  Hoping one day someone from the industry will step in and reconise there genius and take them away from the game industry into the world of adored film creator.

When in reality there just wasting our time.



i have always wanted to get an answer to this question.. who better to make a film based on a game than the original developers? that way it will be as original as possible



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street fighter as your example of movie games? Weird. 



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leatherhat said:

street fighter as your example of movie games? Weird. 

Yeah lol that's why I'm not sure I understand.



David Jaffe, creator of Twisted Metal and God of War, was a failed movie buff.

A lot of those film failures made their way into gaming; they might not have originally wanted to end up in it. Their lack of passion towards the profession could leak into their titles.

Can't make real movies....but videogames is close enough; the word video is in it :P

I don't hate or dislike all people like Jaffe, but you'd be surprised how many people like him are in such power positions in gaming.



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SaviorX said:

David Jaffe, creator of Twisted Metal and God of War, was a failed movie buff.

A lot of those film failures made their way into gaming; they might not have originally wanted to end up in it. Their lack of passion towards the profession could leak into their titles.

Can't make real movies....but videogames is close enough; the word video is in it :P

I don't hate or dislike all people like Jaffe, but you'd be surprised how many people like him are in such power positions in gaming.

Why would you hate David Jaffe? Because he likes movies?

I truly don't understand. Is this thread a joke? :/



SaviorX said:

David Jaffe, creator of Twisted Metal and God of War, was a failed movie buff.

A lot of those film failures made their way into gaming; they might not have originally wanted to end up in it. Their lack of passion towards the profession could leak into their titles.

Can't make real movies....but videogames is close enough; the word video is in it :P

I don't hate or dislike all people like Jaffe, but you'd be surprised how many people like him are in such power positions in gaming.


Are you implying twisted metal isn't awesome? 



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