but according to evolution you are a sony hater :)

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Jarrod by Atma...

Now this is just becoming a 360 fans think, PS3 fans think, reasonable fans think, die hard fans think, mega man fans think, soda pop fans think, etc thread.

Lets just say, judging from feedback that:

Some people really beleive GT5 will take off, and be the best selling GT game, so above 15 million.

Others think GT3 is on its own level, so 11-15 million

Bunch of uninformed people think between GT1 and GT4 (Such a small band in sales, most of these people probably just liked the 3rd best selling option, and dunno past history)

Another large group beleives GT5 will follow the common GT status quo, so 9-11 million

Another large group of people beleive GT5 will sell better then GT5 Prologue, but worse then GT2, something like 6-10 million. (This is where I belong).

Another group think GT5 will just barely surpass GT5P sales, so 5-6 million.

A last group thinks GT5 will fail totally, so 3-5 million.

Don't think anyone said under 3 million, but someone did give a 2-4 million gap. That 1 guy is on his own.

Lets keep the hate aside, after Mario Kart, this will be the best selling racing game this generation, and the best selling Sim. By no way does this mean it will be the best racing game (Just like Halo isn't necessarly the best shooter), but it will be a great game that will sell well.

That said, I think Sony is stupid delaying the game. That will most likely hurt sales.

Now this is just becoming a 360 fans think, PS3 fans think, reasonable fans think, die hard fans think, mega man fans think, soda pop fans think, etc thread.

Lets just say, judging from feedback that:

Some people really beleive GT5 will take off, and be the best selling GT game, so above 15 million.

Others think GT3 is on its own level, so 11-15 million

Bunch of uninformed people think between GT1 and GT4 (Such a small band in sales, most of these people probably just liked the 3rd best selling option, and dunno past history)

Another large group beleives GT5 will follow the common GT status quo, so 9-11 million

Another large group of people beleive GT5 will sell better then GT5 Prologue, but worse then GT2, something like 6-10 million. (This is where I belong).

Another group think GT5 will just barely surpass GT5P sales, so 5-6 million.

A last group thinks GT5 will fail totally, so 3-5 million.

Don't think anyone said under 3 million, but someone did give a 2-4 million gap. That 1 guy is on his own.

Lets keep the hate aside, after Mario Kart, this will be the best selling racing game this generation, and the best selling Sim. By no way does this mean it will be the best racing game (Just like Halo isn't necessarly the best shooter), but it will be a great game that will sell well.

That said, I think Sony is stupid delaying the game. That will most likely hurt sales.

Honesty is the best policy.

To be honest, after the PS2 my image of Sony has dropped (PS3 nowhere nearly as good, and bad reliability), and MS has jumped considerably. However reliability issues with my 360 do annoy me, so I only prefer my 360 because of cheap used games. I think the Wii is a great system, but it really needs more games. DS just owns everything handheldwise, much better then PSP for me, I just wish they made a 3DS-phone so I wouldn't have to carry two peices of tech. Prob won't get the 3DS because I have so many unbeated DS games, and I just prefer home consoles.

So to me, Nintendo trumps, but doesn't offer much on the Wii, MS offers the most and is thus my favorite this gen, and PS3 is good in principle, but if it werent for those few must haves (GT, Heavy Rain, KZ, Last Guardian, etc), I would ignore it complelty, as I prefer the 360. They are just too similar to need both, a Wii is a better secondary console.

Note: I own a 360, and DS. I borrow a Wii and PSP from time to time to beat my favorite games. Sold the PS3 to a friend recently, but he will let me borrow it for GT5.

I think 6-8 million, 8 being the most. I just think people have moved on, all the delays have done nothing but kill the hype train.

whoops double post

someone quote this post:

If GT5 releases before christmas this year EMEAA first week sales will be >2 Million.

iv said that years ago. 

esoecually if its out for a few days, not a 2 days (1st week) sales.  

did you even think before posting that joke.

6-8m will be Europe alone.