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Slimebeast on 16 October 2010
numonex said:
Zkuq said:

Mistakes happen. No innocent man (or woman) should die because of death sentence.

Also, how do you teach people not to kill by killing? An old argument I guess. But still, what gives us the right to decide between one's life and death?

The death penalty does not reduce crime rates. People who are insane and on drugs do not care. The level of a civilised nations is where it does not have a death penalty: is democratic and respects human rights.

Death penalty is based on draconian religious principle of an eye for an eye. Cold blooded revenge. More blood shed usually results in more blood shed. 

Is there something wrong with revenge?



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badgenome on 16 October 2010
Khuutra said:
badgenome said:

For it in theory, against it in practice. There are people who deserve to die, certainly, but I don't really trust a government not to fuck that up, and it's my understanding that it's more expensive to execute someone than it is to imprison them for life - which sounds so stupid and counterintuitive that it must be true

This is almost definitely not true.

The average cost for someone to be imprisoned in California - as I recall - is about 50,000 USD a year; as in you could send them to UC Berkley with room, board, books, and everything, and spend a lot less money.

Extrapolate that shit to fifty years.

Yeah, but if you factor in court appeals and how long it takes to actually getting around to executing someone (10 years or more)? I can see it.



Khuutra on 16 October 2010
Slimebeast said:

Is there something wrong with revenge?

Revenge, at first though sweet,
Bitter ere long back on itself recoils.



Slimebeast on 16 October 2010
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

Is there something wrong with revenge?

Revenge, at first though sweet,
Bitter ere long back on itself recoils.

Is that a quote from Yoda?



Khuutra on 16 October 2010
badgenome said:
Khuutra said:

This is almost definitely not true.

The average cost for someone to be imprisoned in California - as I recall - is about 50,000 USD a year; as in you could send them to UC Berkley with room, board, books, and everything, and spend a lot less money.

Extrapolate that shit to fifty years.

Yeah, but if you factor in court appeals and how long it takes to actually getting around to executing someone (10 years or more)? I can see it.

Court appeals happen without the death penalty, too. Even assuming that a person sentenced to life only lives ten years logner in prison than does someone on death row (this is not the case), you also have to factor in increased cost of care as a person ages - once you hit your mid forties, you become a lot harder to take care of. Execution would have to be enormously, egregiously expensive in order to outweigh how huge the cost of holding a prisoner for the course of his life is.



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numonex on 16 October 2010
Slimebeast said:
numonex said:
Zkuq said:

Mistakes happen. No innocent man (or woman) should die because of death sentence.

Also, how do you teach people not to kill by killing? An old argument I guess. But still, what gives us the right to decide between one's life and death?

The death penalty does not reduce crime rates. People who are insane and on drugs do not care. The level of a civilised nations is where it does not have a death penalty: is democratic and respects human rights.

Death penalty is based on draconian religious principle of an eye for an eye. Cold blooded revenge. More blood shed usually results in more blood shed. 

Is there something wrong with revenge?

Is there something wrong with murder? Two wrongs do not make a right. 



Khuutra on 16 October 2010
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

Is there something wrong with revenge?

Revenge, at first though sweet,
Bitter ere long back on itself recoils.

Is that a quote from Yoda?

John Milton, Paradise Lost. If you think George Lucas could write something liek that, youv'e never watched Star Wars in English.

From the book of Romans:

12:17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil; consider what is good before all people. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all people. 19 Do not avenge yourselves, dear friends, but give place to God’s wrath, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Rather, if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing this you will be heaping burning coals on his head. 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.



marciosmg on 16 October 2010
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

Is there something wrong with revenge?

Revenge, at first though sweet,
Bitter ere long back on itself recoils.

Is that a quote from Yoda?

John Milton, Paradise Lost. If you think George Lucas could write something liek that, youv'e never watched Star Wars in English.

From the book of Romans:

12:17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil; consider what is good before all people. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all people. 19 Do not avenge yourselves, dear friends, but give place to God’s wrath, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Rather, if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing this you will be heaping burning coals on his head. 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with go

I almost used this very quote on my post. I agree.



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gurglesletch on 16 October 2010

For it. If they have undoubtably done it and it was a serious crime. 




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huaxiong90 on 16 October 2010

I completely support it, granted it can completely be proven that the convict is guilty. Reason why I approve of it is because I strongly believe in an eye for an eye. That, and it's better not to release the lion from the cage.



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