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Pachter : SONY's Playstation MOVE sold "WELL BELOW Expectations"!

Pachter who'd be dumb en... 240 48.88%
 
I agree with Pachter, I'm disappointed 176 35.85%
 
Meh At least Ps3 hardware sales were great! 75 15.27%
 
Total:491

It sold better than i suspected, seriously i didn't even see a single add for move on TV etc before it was actually out. And i've yet to see demos of it in store. Also i've tried Sports Champions since my friend has a move and seriously... Well i guess it worked for the Wii, but a Wii is cheap. A PS3 with move is $400, i rather buy a Wii and 360 arcade if i was a new console owner (same price). It will be pretty cool once it comes down in price and it gets some software though.



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Cypher1980 said:
badgenome said:

Considering that it is overpriced, seems pretty fucking contrived from a hardware perspective, and launched with no compelling software, I'd say it's done amazingly well.


This

Just read Edge magazines reviews of the MOVE games.

Sports Champions did best and got 6/10

People listen to Edge? They gave GoW 2 a 7 and Halo 3 a 10... You could consider me a 360 fanboy, but even i thinks the former is the better game.

On a second note Sports Champions actually do suck, but Edge grades are really bad, they are at least 2 points of the general gaming press for like 70% of the titles.



mundus6 said:
Cypher1980 said:
badgenome said:

Considering that it is overpriced, seems pretty fucking contrived from a hardware perspective, and launched with no compelling software, I'd say it's done amazingly well.


This

Just read Edge magazines reviews of the MOVE games.

Sports Champions did best and got 6/10

People listen to Edge? They gave GoW 2 a 7 and Halo 3 a 10... You could consider me a 360 fanboy, but even i thinks the former is the better game.

On a second note Sports Champions actually do suck, but Edge grades are really bad, they are at least 2 points of the general gaming press for like 70% of the titles.


They arent as good as they used to be but I do like their reviews.

Basically Edge love innovation.

Halo 3 was marked up due to the inclusion of Forge

Sports Champions and the other MOVE games were seemingly marked down due to their similarities with Wii forerunners (ie. in Edge's eyes zero innovation).

Heck I sometimes love games that they criticise but you need to read the whole review to get the full picture.

For instance they gave Dead Rising 2 a 7/10 i think, and basically that was because its almost a carbon copy of the first game with a few kinks ironed out but with a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses.

I loved the first game so just add 2 points for a 9/10

If you do read a full Edge review it is usually incredibly incisive. Even if the final score can seem the product of witchcraft !



Raze said:

People  are still listening to Pachter?

This is how it works - just invert whatever pachter says and you have the truth-

Move sold well, but Move and Kinect will not drive HW sales this holiday. =)

Funny, but true.



Its the console that underperformed, not the Move itself.

Compared with Septembers 360 console sales (alongside, but not neccesarily bundled, with Halo Reach), Move didn't generate any interest in the PS3. I think MS would be worried about this too.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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drkohler said:
Uraeus said:

Seems the Move underperformed in the US and did really well in Europe.

Seems that Pachter is still underperforming as far as his brain is concerned.

Underperformed there means you must have high expectations for Pachter.  Well, I don't so, I consider it par for the course with him.



It did realy well , no big promotion campain , overpriced , not much of good software to support it , If it stays this way I will stick to my old PS3 controller , I can play those move games on my WII machine



He's right,It is embarrassingly low.



Sports Champions Table Tennis is awesome guys, you should try it if you can. The other games in the disc are kind of average but Table Tennis is 10/10. PS3 did have a bump in sales in the past weeks lets see if it keeps like that.



I generally lambast Pachter, but in this case he is dead on.

As for those voting "Pachter who'd be dumb en...," we all know what your excuses are. "Well, Move was meant to have legs with slow growth!" "Sony never expected it to be a million seller in the first month!"

These excuses are loser excuses. All these excuses are doing is moving the goal post back so that when Move does have a good month, ya'll will come around and say "See Move is a success!" No, we weren't born yesterday. Rarely do games and game accessories such as Move and Kinect have weeks or months bigger than those in their first month. The exception is the holidays.

Thusforth, Move may push 200k units come November and December, but that is the highest it will get. Afterwards, it will resume to 100k per week and lower levels the farther it gets from it's original release date.