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Spankey on 29 September 2010

of course dinosaurs co-existed with man.

does no-one remember the Flintstones?



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Kasz216 on 29 September 2010
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:

I'm against genetic alteration simply because we don't have the correct systems in place to control it.

Honestly though, I trust the atheists. Trust in the people who always make sure to look at all sides of the coin, not just the one they are forced to look at.

To control what?  And what systems don't we have in place or couldn't put in place?

To quote some smart guy "He who controls the fountain of life controls the world"

I just don't think we have the proper restraints in place. I can see it quickly spiraling out of control. Mostly in a military aspect....

but I can also see it tear humanity in two when it gets to the point where a race of super babies are starting to be created by the super rich. I'm not thrilled about inventing new ways to divide us.

However, I would be all for disease and disorder treatment, but who's to say that they wouldn't go further? Especially when money is involved.

I know I sound like a nut, but given the way the market works, it's hard to say it wouldn't happen. Just look at how our food is made.

Futher with what?  I don't get exactly what your issue is.

Like, they'd pay someone to make their child have a higher IQ and be more physically fit naturally?

What would be bad about that again?   The average IQ of the world would be higher, and the average health of the world would be more fit.

Like spiraling out of control in a military aspect?  Again, how?  I mean genetic engineering isn't like the marvel universe, you can't create superpowered fire breathing people with 100% loyalty to some shadow government.

In the future genetic engineering will likely be as common place as things like vaccinations.



ultraslick on 29 September 2010
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:

I'm against genetic alteration simply because we don't have the correct systems in place to control it.

Honestly though, I trust the atheists. Trust in the people who always make sure to look at all sides of the coin, not just the one they are forced to look at.

To control what?  And what systems don't we have in place or couldn't put in place?

To quote some smart guy "He who controls the fountain of life controls the world"

I just don't think we have the proper restraints in place. I can see it quickly spiraling out of control. Mostly in a military aspect....

but I can also see it tear humanity in two when it gets to the point where a race of super babies are starting to be created by the super rich. I'm not thrilled about inventing new ways to divide us.

However, I would be all for disease and disorder treatment, but who's to say that they wouldn't go further? Especially when money is involved.

I know I sound like a nut, but given the way the market works, it's hard to say it wouldn't happen. Just look at how our food is made.

Futher with what?  I don't get exactly what your issue is.

Like, they'd pay someone to make their child have a higher IQ and be more physically fit naturally?

What would be bad about that again?   The average IQ of the world would be higher, and the average health of the world would be more fit.

Like spiraling out of control in a military aspect?  Again, how?  I mean genetic engineering isn't like the marvel universe, you can't create superpowered fire breathing people with 100% loyalty to some shadow government.

In the future genetic engineering will likely be as common place as things like vaccinations.

What you are talking about is almost exactly the plot of the movie; Gattaca.

you are talking as if you have not seen that movie, and while I will not disagree with anything you have been saying about going all gung-ho with genetic engineering, there are other aspects of societies and economic concerns such an unbalanced system of half superior, half inferior human race would bring up.

anyways, go watch Gattaca, its a good movie.



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pizzahut451 on 29 September 2010

Well, i dont believe God created Earth, i believe he created the universe, so im not a creatonist i guess. But i sure as hell dont believe in a a bullshit, retarded made up theory known as Big Bang



Lafiel on 29 September 2010
pizzahut451 said:

Well, i dont believe God created Earth, i believe he created the universe, so im not a creatonist i guess. But i sure as hell dont believe in a a bullshit, retarded made up theory known as Big Bang

every theory is made up, that's why they are called theories

right now the "Big Bang" (afaik a term first used by the opposers heh) is the most consistent theory with what we can see/measure, but if someone (you?) can come up with sth that explains the things we see/measure even better then chances are good that will be the next standard for explaining what happened "at the beginning"



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darthdevidem01 on 29 September 2010
Kasz216 said:
Lafiel said:

@ numonex )

Well, I mostly agree with you, but science of course can't "create the world", science can explain the physical aspects and principles that were/are active in the creation of the world as we know it, but it can't explain why there was enough matter (more than anti-matter) to begin with and why the 4 fundamental interactions (electromagnetism, strong interaction, weak interaction and gravitation) are correlated in such an optimal way for the universe to form as it is now (which essentially is the reason for us being alive).

And in my opinion the bible was written to give people hope and a reason to live through dark times.. that's not very essential to us in the western world anymore, but I think there is no reason to mock that, although I agree that it's hard not to mock the people that think every line in that book is the ultimate truth and can't be doubted.

Btw, some scientists try to reactive dinosaur DNA, which lies dormant in todays birds.. I guess within a century or so they might find enough parts to actually recreate a "dinosaur-like" being, although such an act would be morally highly questionable.

I don't see why.

I don't get why people are so against "Genetic engineering."

I mean, the eugenics craze gave it a bad name, but that was because they didn't know shit about genetics.

Bringing back the dinosaurs so kids could see them?  What's so bad about that.

Hell what's so bad about genetically engineering festuses?

I mean, tell me someone who has a recessive taysachs gene wouldn't be better off having their child genetically engineered rather then getting taysachs.  Getting rid of all those genetic diseases and mental retardation.

Why are people against that?

Espiecally athests!  It just feels like Atheists holding on to the "not messing with gods work" angle.

But hell, doesn't medicine already do that? 

Please no we have had a trilogy of films showing how wrong something like that can go!



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dystopia on 29 September 2010

Simply idiotic.



Homer_Simpson on 29 September 2010

is this a joke thread? yes?

surely no-one is actually that stupid



binary solo on 29 September 2010
numonex said:

Physicists and other science experts have proven that science created the world and the universe more than 4 billion years ago. 


ROFL ROFL ROFL that's as ridiculous as the notion of creationism.

Science is an investigative methodology, not a force of nature.

Saying "Science did it" makes about as much sense as saying "God did it".



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The Ghost of RubangB on 29 September 2010

What do dinosaurs have to do with the evolution of non-dinosaurs and/or the evolution of religious theories?  Leave the dinosaurs out of this.  They were giant monsters who ruled the world and ate everything, and then they died.  Leave them alone!



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