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Religious groups should be forced to pay tax. Gaping hole in tax revenue and large portion is diverted into religious groups. Religious groups should be forced to pay tax to the government. Religious cults and sects and all religious organisation make profits on behalf of the Maltese knights who run those organisations. Huge profits are  made and tax free. The Pope the head of the Catholic church is a Jesuit and a Maltese Knight whose fortune is in the hundreds of billions. Vatican is made out of gold, diamonds and  other precious stones. The Vatican is a country in its own right and gets all its money and wealth from citizens around the world. 

Tax the religious groups would bring in more tax revenue and take the burden off non-religious businesses and lower taxes for the lower and middle income classes. Not for profit is a big bad lie. Tax the Catholic church and tax the Muslims and tax the Jews, etc. No exceptions.   Down with religion. Tax the religious organisations and force them to pay tax to the government. Religion = corruption, greed and power. Religious groups need to pay tax.

By taxing religious groups at company tax rates: the government can take the burden off companies and all tax payers. Governments would not have to worry about huge foreign debts and foreign deficits and worry about how it has to cut Budgets. Tax rates could be lowered for citizens if only these church groups are forced to pay tax like companies and citizens. 

Tax the religious groups: will help reduce the deficit get it back to surplus and more to spend in needed areas of the Budget such as Social Security, improved education,  aged pension and health care for all citizens. Subsidise private health insurance with private health rebates to decrease citizens tax and Medicare for those who can not afford private health care.



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You have a point in my opinion.  My question is: why aren't religious groups and organization taxed in the first place?  I know there's a reason I just can't remember what it is.  Does anyone know?



...Why not go all the way and tax all non-profits as well?



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

You kind of scare me. Separation of church and state is big in my book. Forcing religous organizations to pay taxes won't only not solve the debt, but also cause lots of resentment and uprisings. People want freedom to worship without any government intervention, and taking that away is not only a direct violation of the constitution, but would cause too many uprisings and revolts, possibly leading to a revolution.

A good idea? Maybe. Reasonable? Not really



RCTjunkie said:

You kind of scare me. Separation of church and state is big in my book. Forcing religous organizations to pay taxes won't only not solve the debt, but also cause lots of resentment and uprisings. People want freedom to worship without any government intervention, and taking that away is not only a direct violation of the constitution, but would cause too many uprisings and revolts, possibly leading to a revolution.

A good idea? Maybe. Reasonable? Not really

I am a logical Atheist venting my hate on religious organisations getting away with paying no tax in most countries through out the western world. Criminal and terrorist organisations use religious organisations  to launder money. 

Religious organisations should be forced to pay tax. The Queen and monarchs should be mandatory forced to pay tax to the government. The Budget would be balanced instantly: deficit gone, into surplus. Government current short term public debt can be paid off quickly. Foreign debt may never be paid back or even reduced due to interest and volatility of the financial derivatives markets. Personal debt is citizens individual responsibility to pay back to the financial institutions.

By taxing religious groups = more government tax revenue. Lower taxes for citizens and lower taxes for companies. Why make the lower and middle income classes pay for the upper classes and governments mistakes of the economic crisis? 

It would take a brave government to enforce this dramatic tax change. Yes, there would  be outrage, revolts and protests. European nations could do it because they do not need 70% voting in support in the US Congress to pass bills. European nations only need 50% 1 vote to pass laws changes and bills through their parliament.

Take the tax burden off of Jane and John average citizen and tax the Pope and Queen. Taxing the religious groups could be sold as a Green Tax or Green Levy. Feel good marketable name that will help take the heat off the religion tax. It would bring home lots of tax money for the government if  it was enforced.

Religious groups/cults/sects/organisations should be forced to pay tax. 



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Shadowfest3 said:

You have a point in my opinion.  My question is: why aren't religious groups and organization taxed in the first place?  I know there's a reason I just can't remember what it is.  Does anyone know?


He has a point that all religions and cults are created and run by one shadow orginization of rich people that have existed since the crusader days?   One would presume before, what with christianity, judiasm and Islam existing before then.

Why he thinks the knights Hospitller did it all I'm not sure but stilll.....

I'm guessing you didn't actually read the OP.

They aren't taxed because they are by and large non-profit orginizations.



I don't get how you say your a logical atheist, then cite that all religious organizations make a profit for the Maltese Knights.

Yeah, real logical there, Dr. Spock.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

I am completely non-religious (there is no religion I believe in); but I really can't stand the people who have turned non-religion into a fanatical belief system. I have seen no group in this world more persistent in attempting to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throat than those who label themselves Atheist - they make Jehovah's witnesses seem very tame in comparison. This to me shows a strong lack of wisdom. This is why I will never label myself as an Atheist.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

I thought your last thread was crazy. Now you're just showing yourself to be an intolerant hate-monger, only in a more 2010 acceptable way than lynching black people. Turn the hate toward organized religion and everything's A-okay even though it's the same vitriolic blind hatred shown by other bigots.

BTW, I really dislike almost all organized religion. I'm an Agnostic. But, unlike you, I respect their right to exist and operate separate from state institutions. Nah, not only do I accept it but I embrace the notion. It's the way things should be.




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mrstickball said:

...Why not go all the way and tax all non-profits as well?


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