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Kasz216 on 25 September 2010
oldschoolfool said:
Kasz216 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Severance said:
deskpro2k3 said:

phat girls need love too.

that being said, all women are beautiful. just depends on how you look at them.


wishful thinking never works.

I know a guy who would love dating a 300 pounds woman, so it's kind of true lol

ot:

physical attraction matters, If it didn't matter you might as well date men!

Hah, exactly what I was going to say.

A woman you aren't atracted to is really no different then a man.

that's just not true. read my previous post in this thread. Unless your brad pit are Johnny depp,your just going to have to settle.

What's the point of settling?

Like, literally.  What's the point of dating someone you aren't attraced to vs them being your friend?



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oldschoolfool on 25 September 2010
DaHuuuuuudge said:
oldschoolfool said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:

Ok. This post may come off as callous, but I would be remiss if I didn't share my opinion. First off all, you are not shallow. There is no such thing as being shallow. The reason why attractive people date attractive people is from a process known as sexual selection ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection )

Basically, in a situation where natural selection is not taking effect (read: The species is thriving) a new force comes to shape the species. Organisms notice what is more visually appealing, and will try to find someone with features they find appealing. Many things that humans find "ugly" are usually things show health weakness (obesity being the most common form).

This may be hard to hear, but there is no such thing as being shallow. "Shallow" is a term that we as humans have devised to make the attractive feel sorry for being able to have attractive mates. We created it because of the fact that we can see the negative effects of sexual selection.

So don't feel bad about dating attractive people. It isn't your fault if you are attractive.

/textbook

 


yes there is such a thing as being shallow. How about being with someone just because they make alot of money and buy you stuff. If your an attractive person,of course you have an easier chance of dating attractive people,so I don't see how that has anything to do with being shallow. What if the attractive person you were dating was a complete ahole and you were still dating such person,just because they were attractive. Would'nt that make you shallow? What if you dating someone just because of they were a powerful person and had a high status. So I agree with some of your post,but I disagree that there is no such thing as being shallow. That's just not true.


I'm not looking for an argument, but I am somewhat passionate about this topic, so I will respond (please note I'm not trying to change your mind or make it seem like your thoughts are wrong, I am just defending mine :). )

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. Sexual selection is used to preserve a few things:

  • The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)
  • The ability to produce an attractive offspring, one that is favored by sexual selection (see: sexy son syndrome)

Obviously there are situations in which one of these can't be preserved, but generally they can be.

Personality is one of the monkey wrenches in the idea of sexual selection I will admit, but the process has been happening for hundreds of millions of years, and I believe that it will continue to happen for a long while.

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. -----that's just no reality. In America the divorce rate is as high as it's ever been.

The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)-----How do big animals =sexy animals. Maybe big animals =survial of the fittest. So your saying your well being depends on how attractive you are?                                                      



DaHuuuuuudge on 25 September 2010
oldschoolfool said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:
oldschoolfool said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:

Ok. This post may come off as callous, but I would be remiss if I didn't share my opinion. First off all, you are not shallow. There is no such thing as being shallow. The reason why attractive people date attractive people is from a process known as sexual selection ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection )

Basically, in a situation where natural selection is not taking effect (read: The species is thriving) a new force comes to shape the species. Organisms notice what is more visually appealing, and will try to find someone with features they find appealing. Many things that humans find "ugly" are usually things show health weakness (obesity being the most common form).

This may be hard to hear, but there is no such thing as being shallow. "Shallow" is a term that we as humans have devised to make the attractive feel sorry for being able to have attractive mates. We created it because of the fact that we can see the negative effects of sexual selection.

So don't feel bad about dating attractive people. It isn't your fault if you are attractive.

/textbook

 


yes there is such a thing as being shallow. How about being with someone just because they make alot of money and buy you stuff. If your an attractive person,of course you have an easier chance of dating attractive people,so I don't see how that has anything to do with being shallow. What if the attractive person you were dating was a complete ahole and you were still dating such person,just because they were attractive. Would'nt that make you shallow? What if you dating someone just because of they were a powerful person and had a high status. So I agree with some of your post,but I disagree that there is no such thing as being shallow. That's just not true.


I'm not looking for an argument, but I am somewhat passionate about this topic, so I will respond (please note I'm not trying to change your mind or make it seem like your thoughts are wrong, I am just defending mine :). )

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. Sexual selection is used to preserve a few things:

  • The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)
  • The ability to produce an attractive offspring, one that is favored by sexual selection (see: sexy son syndrome)

Obviously there are situations in which one of these can't be preserved, but generally they can be.

Personality is one of the monkey wrenches in the idea of sexual selection I will admit, but the process has been happening for hundreds of millions of years, and I believe that it will continue to happen for a long while.

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. -----that's just no reality. In America the divorce rate is as high as it's ever been.

The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)-----How do big animals =sexy animals. Maybe big animals =survial of the fittest. So your saying your well being depends on how attractive you are?                                                      

Divorce really isn't a matter of reaching or settling. People don't get divorced because they suddenly think "Hey, I can do better!" This is a matter of personality, which, once again, baffles the principles of sexual selection.

Well the point behind sexual selection is for a force to drive an individual in a thriving community to be better than it's peers. So survival of the fittest doesn't matter with this. And attraction is correlated with protection in the animal kingdom.

Again though, to each his own.



oldschoolfool on 25 September 2010
Kasz216 said:
oldschoolfool said:
Kasz216 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Severance said:
deskpro2k3 said:

phat girls need love too.

that being said, all women are beautiful. just depends on how you look at them.


wishful thinking never works.

I know a guy who would love dating a 300 pounds woman, so it's kind of true lol

ot:

physical attraction matters, If it didn't matter you might as well date men!

Hah, exactly what I was going to say.

A woman you aren't atracted to is really no different then a man.

that's just not true. read my previous post in this thread. Unless your brad pit are Johnny depp,your just going to have to settle.

What's the point of settling?

Like, literally.  What's the point of dating someone you aren't attraced to vs them being your friend?

like I said unless your a pretty boy are have alot of money your just not going to find your dream girl. Your just not going to find that perfect someone,to think otherwise is just wishful thinking. I not saying that one has to go for the ugliest troll out there,but you can't also expect to find your dreamgirl unless again,your a pretty boy are have alot of money. Call me cyncial,but that's just the way I see things.



oldschoolfool on 25 September 2010
DaHuuuuuudge said:
oldschoolfool said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:
oldschoolfool said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:

Ok. This post may come off as callous, but I would be remiss if I didn't share my opinion. First off all, you are not shallow. There is no such thing as being shallow. The reason why attractive people date attractive people is from a process known as sexual selection ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection )

Basically, in a situation where natural selection is not taking effect (read: The species is thriving) a new force comes to shape the species. Organisms notice what is more visually appealing, and will try to find someone with features they find appealing. Many things that humans find "ugly" are usually things show health weakness (obesity being the most common form).

This may be hard to hear, but there is no such thing as being shallow. "Shallow" is a term that we as humans have devised to make the attractive feel sorry for being able to have attractive mates. We created it because of the fact that we can see the negative effects of sexual selection.

So don't feel bad about dating attractive people. It isn't your fault if you are attractive.

/textbook

 


yes there is such a thing as being shallow. How about being with someone just because they make alot of money and buy you stuff. If your an attractive person,of course you have an easier chance of dating attractive people,so I don't see how that has anything to do with being shallow. What if the attractive person you were dating was a complete ahole and you were still dating such person,just because they were attractive. Would'nt that make you shallow? What if you dating someone just because of they were a powerful person and had a high status. So I agree with some of your post,but I disagree that there is no such thing as being shallow. That's just not true.


I'm not looking for an argument, but I am somewhat passionate about this topic, so I will respond (please note I'm not trying to change your mind or make it seem like your thoughts are wrong, I am just defending mine :). )

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. Sexual selection is used to preserve a few things:

  • The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)
  • The ability to produce an attractive offspring, one that is favored by sexual selection (see: sexy son syndrome)

Obviously there are situations in which one of these can't be preserved, but generally they can be.

Personality is one of the monkey wrenches in the idea of sexual selection I will admit, but the process has been happening for hundreds of millions of years, and I believe that it will continue to happen for a long while.

The idea behind sexual selection is that couples are equally matched, that there are no "reachers" or "settlers" in a relationship. -----that's just no reality. In America the divorce rate is as high as it's ever been.

The well being of each person (in the animal kingdom, big animals = sexy animals (generally), and In our world, rich people = valuable people.)-----How do big animals =sexy animals. Maybe big animals =survial of the fittest. So your saying your well being depends on how attractive you are?                                                      

Divorce really isn't a matter of reaching or settling. People don't get divorced because they suddenly think "Hey, I can do better!" This is a matter of personality, which, once again, baffles the principles of sexual selection.

Well the point behind sexual selection is for a force to drive an individual in a thriving community to be better than it's peers. So survival of the fittest doesn't matter with this. And attraction is correlated with protection in the animal kingdom.

Again though, to each his own.

Well the point behind sexual selection is for a force to drive an individual in a thriving community to be better than it's peers. ------so your saying attractive people are better than other people? So the uglies are just screwed and have to worship the the attractive people. lol

So survival of the fittest doesn't matter with this. And attraction is correlated with protection in the animal kingdom. ------- Why are saying the animal kingdom. I understand that humans are alot like animals,but let's not act like were litterally animals and everything applies in both worlds. I'm just going to have to respectfully disagree with you as I can't really do this all day. lol



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deskpro2k3 on 25 September 2010

its all about emotional bonding, no homo. because, a good lookin girl to you could be ugly to someone else.

 

and wth is science  doin in here. @_@



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Kasz216 on 25 September 2010
oldschoolfool said:
Kasz216 said:
oldschoolfool said:
Kasz216 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Severance said:
deskpro2k3 said:

phat girls need love too.

that being said, all women are beautiful. just depends on how you look at them.


wishful thinking never works.

I know a guy who would love dating a 300 pounds woman, so it's kind of true lol

ot:

physical attraction matters, If it didn't matter you might as well date men!

Hah, exactly what I was going to say.

A woman you aren't atracted to is really no different then a man.

that's just not true. read my previous post in this thread. Unless your brad pit are Johnny depp,your just going to have to settle.

What's the point of settling?

Like, literally.  What's the point of dating someone you aren't attraced to vs them being your friend?

like I said unless your a pretty boy are have alot of money your just not going to find your dream girl. Your just not going to find that perfect someone,to think otherwise is just wishful thinking. I not saying that one has to go for the ugliest troll out there,but you can't also expect to find your dreamgirl unless again,your a pretty boy are have alot of money. Call me cyncial,but that's just the way I see things.

"perfect someone" and someone your attracted to are two very different things.

If you aren't attracted to someone there is really no reason to go from friend to dating.  There isnt' anything you wouldn't get out of a friendship that you would get in a relationship with said person.



Cobretti2 on 25 September 2010
NKAJ said:
deskpro2k3 said:
NKAJ said:

you need to have physical attraction for a relationship so i would say a no.


physical? Isn't it all about emotional bonding?

what about people that are blind?

Well i think there needs to be physical attraction because otherwise you are just best friends...you have to be sexually attracted to...wtether its her smells or her build...and if your blind well then it woudnt matter so much but you can still touch/smell...

you do know some people find smartness, stability or good heart etc.. sexually attracting?

 

it isnt all body.

 

deskpro2k3 said:

its all about emotional bonding, no homo. because, a good lookin girl to you could be ugly to someone else.

 

and wth is science  doin in here. @_@

 

This is so true. I saw some tv show on this. It was in UK and they got like 100 people (50-50 men-women).

The aim was to score the opposite sex out of 10.

On average most people fitted in between 4-7.

But when they looked at the highest score someone of the opposite sex rated them.

The range was 7-10.

So this clearly shows, there is someone out there that will find you appealing.

 



 

 

chocoloco on 25 September 2010

It depends how fat and ugly you are yourself. If your fat and ugly date fat and ugly people.

If your fit and sexy than date fit and sexy people.

The only thing that changes these simple rules is money.

I put myself in the fit and sexy catagory so fat chicks can take a hike.



Signalstar on 25 September 2010

I hooked up with a chubby girl last night when I was drinking and I regret it so much. I think I have deep seated contempt for Obese people. I don't know why but when I see one it just brings me down emotionally and I get overly judgmental. I have some obese friends who I like just fine though.



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