Halo 3

NA User Base

7,469,420

EU User Base

3,911,335

Halo Reach

NA User Base

24,971,098

EU User Base

16,971,895

increase in HW sold since Halo 3

NA 70%

EU 77%

Halo 3

NA 1st Week

2,844,837

EU 1st Week

908,192

Halo Reach

NA 1st Week

3,006,170

EU 1st Week

952,085

increase in SW sales

NA 5.4%

EU 4.6%

  Ive been making a few threads here on VGCharts about GT5 vs Reach LTD, HW boost from SW launch, and GT5s 1st weeks sales.  In those threads i noticed a clear pattern emerged a lot of VGCharts posters seemed to favor Halo Reach, I've been also getting PMs and wall posts saying "BHR-3 hang up your jacket GT5s done stop comparing it to Reach it will never out do it", "Reach is the FPS game of the century and the most wanted FPS of 2010 if you werent such a Sony fan you would see this", and "BHR-3 havent you've seen how big the 360s userbase has gotten since Halo 3 you'd be foolish not to think that Reach wont double its 1st week".

Now i dont want to turn this thread into a reach vs gt5 thing the thread is more about me "continuing my work" and is just a statistical point for future events that are almost upon us, and since reach numbers came out i thought some would want to see how the Halo series has grown and how reach stacked up against Halo 3s 1st week release years ago.  Yeah yeah i know no JP numbers but there not out yet for Reach and i dont think they would play much role. 

When I saw Halo in the topic and saw who created it, I knew what the outcome of the post would be.

 Reach is doing amazing. I thought it might have some problems since CoD has turned into a sells phenomenon and there's more competition in the FPS market than when Halo 3 came about, but it's managed to outdo Halo 3 despite that, of course more 360 owners probably helped. 

No, wait. Hold on.

Explain the point of this comparison to me.

I've noticed that when someone uses percentages rather than hard numbers, that said person is trying, for better or for worse, to twist the subject to better match his/her view on that same subject.

I mean, just ignore Halo: Reach's incredible 1st week sales numbers for a second and look at those much smaller percentages. For shame Halo: Reach! For shame!

Halo Reach is an amazing game and I respect that you told GT fans to stop comparing.

I loved the PS2, but most of original PS1 fans are nearing their late 30's and probably not gaming as much as their kids are...and thats why old classics like FF and GT will probably not to as hot as they used to because the YOUNG and Coming crowd don't know the story lines of those games as the parents who discovered them did..

Those 10,12,14 year olds that ask mom and dads to buy games and consoles are more interested in the addiction of FPS's ..  The proof is in the stats - BOTH PS3 and Xbox - Best Selling titles FPS ! 

And since you brought up the topic of GT5 not outselling Reach, I completely agree.. PS3's best selling title COD MW2 sold like 8.4 million ? They have a smaller user base of console owners and if you go by GAME SALES HISTORY ALONE.. it would seem that the xb360 is way more then just 5.6 million consoles ahead of PS3.. why do i say that ? Because 360 has sold 120 Million more game units then PS3, equating to 8-9 BILLION DOLLARS !  Sony needs to see console gaming has shifted to the west ( I.e, Europe and America ) and start making titles catering to them a bit more ... You hear the hype about Sony has choices.. well those choices arent selling.. NHL 2011, NBA 2011 can be played on either console..Fable.. etc.. 360 actually has about 150 more titles then PS3, which destroys the myth Sony creates that XB360 only has shooters..  That myth exist because FPS's are whats hot and in the now.. My recommendation as a gaming fan to Sony: Create more great FPShooters.. they seem to be driving console sales.. Halo Reach double Xbox sales in UK and darn close to that 100% increase in USA for that same week of Halo Launch !

And now Xbox live is getting to role out the new improvements in Nov ! I think we can appreciate ESPN and the improvement to the online chat ( and in game chat ) which they are upgrading to impoved codecs - We'll all have clearer sounded voices, less static, etc.. Good Job Xbox TEAM

Not really sure. If Reach launched above Modern Warfare 2, it would still only be like a what 20% increase in software? Halo 3's first week is so high, using percentages is misleading.

the op is ot

and fails at math lol

7kk to 24kk, 70%?