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Has Inafune gone MAD? (Megaman Creator, Capcom Dev)

Yes he has gone MADDDD! 25 40.32%
 
No no, Japan IS DOOMED! 20 32.26%
 
Dogs > Mario > Megaman > Cats > New Dante 17 27.42%
 
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jarrod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
A203D said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darkknightkryta said:
jarrod said:
darkknightkryta said:
jarrod said:
darkknightkryta said:

 I honestly don't think Japanese devs can figure this out but your games not selling isn't because they're not "western" they don't sell cause you put everything on the DS and make nothing for consoles.

The companies heavily supporting DS (Level-5, Square Enix, Atlus, etc) and to a lesser extent PSP, seem to be the ones doing better actually.  And Capcom's been pretty shitty on DS support actually, until just this year.

Yes you are correct. But I think I got a revelation, the only devs complaining are Konami, Capcom and Square.  Not sure why Konami's complaining, but with Capcom their complaints are that their games arn't selling well enough in the West, but the only games arn't selling are bad games made by "western" devs everything made by Capcom Japan is selling well here.  Now with Square, you are correct about them supporting DS and PSP and making money off of them, but they keep on complaining for Western sales just like Capcom.  But I think with Square my point holds, their handheld games sell well here, but most of their sales come from Japan.  I think Square's complaints will go away with more console games.  I mean not including Eidos' games the only console games from Square in the last, what 5 years, is Final Fantasy 13 and The Last Remnant.  I think Square will get more sales in the "West" if they just make console games which they have been neglecting.

Well yeah, Capcom's complaints are doubly WTF since all their big deal western ventures have seemed to bomb spectacularly (Bionic Commando, Spyborgs, Dark Void).  Expect Dead Rising 2 and DmC to follow in their footsteps.

Square Enix has done pretty well in the west even on DS/PSP though.  Crisis Core, Dissidia, FFIII/IV, DQIX and KH 358/2d were all relative hits, and I'd say KH BBS/Re:Coded are going to do well also.  I'd agree, more HD RPGs would help in the west, but they're pretty lacking Wii side as well.  

Konami, I dunno.  It seems like they threw everything they had into MGS, and the rest of the company has suffered as a result.  The best Konami games I've played this gen were the WiiWare ReBirth titles, and M2 made those. :/

Yeah Square has had success with handhelds here, but I think he (Wada) wants 4 million sales for each game and well, I'm too lazy to look, but I don't think Square has gotten sales from handelds that high, except for Dragon Quest.  Or Wada's just crazy which I think is the case.  I think Wada reads too much forums or listens to gaming press too much.  I still hold by that if Square just made good console games they'd get their 5 million sellers.  On the other end with Capcom, I'm sure if they internally develop games instead of outsourcing they'd get their sales too (But that might be wrong cause Clover games never lit up the charts), or better yet maybe they should start advertising some games on T.V.  I havn't seen an ad from Capcom since Street Fighter 4 (Can't remember if they made any for Resident Evil).

SE will have more 5 Million sellers on consoles this gen:

- FF 15

- FF Versus 13 

- KH3

- DQX - maybe

I think thats as much as last gen......if its less blame there being less than 2 KH's this gen

The problem with this is that, how many of those sales will come from the west and how many from Japan??, and those franchises are well established names, other than those, nothing else from SE could really hit 4 mil imo. no offense!, but i dont really think they could do it again without the FF brand.

I dunno with FF, its getting weaker in Japan but staying realitvely stable in strength in the west. (stronger in Europe since FF13 is most likely gonna outsell FF10 there and become the best selling FF since 7)

Then KH got stronger in Japan, but weaker in the west.

DQ is getting stronger in both places thankfully, well at least in Europe looking at DQIX....probably not in America.

Its a mixed bag and confusing

Lets just look a it worldwide for the purpose of this thread for now.

DQIX is doing better than DQVIII in the US, and DQVIII had a FFXII demo packed in.  Nintendo is magic.

KH also peaked in Japan with KH2... BBS was a bit of a drop off, though it also didn't have number.  If they'd have just called it what it is (ie: Kingdom Hearts 0) I wonder if it'd have done better?  358/2 days did better than CoM at least.

Yeah, well the point is that Infuane thinks that the reason JP games arent selling as well as their western counterparts is because of their quality - its debatable if this is the case, however i think that some games like Bayonetta and upcoming Vanquish are better in quality than their counterparts in the west. so the question we are left with is why the sales of JP games are not as good as those of the west??

however if we look as something like Mass Effect 2, which IGN considers to be the best 360 game, its obvious that not all western games are selling shedloads even though they are potentially phenominal in quality. so i think part of the reason is actully the console war! and we also have to consider that the western games that are considered the best this gen, like ME or Bioshock arnt selling well either.



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deskpro2k3 said:

He is a dumbass, and he reminds me of Wada. Trying to appeal to the west and forget about your fans in the first place is a bad idea. I'll blame a company for this but I wont say who. :P


I take back what I said. The guy is just having a bad day. Capcom had the lowest net income since 2004 so, I don't blame him for saying that anymore.

 

But, something is seriously wrong with Wada though.



Also, Mega Man Universe looks kinda terrible.  Is Capcom actually making it inhouse? 



deskpro2k3 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

He is a dumbass, and he reminds me of Wada. Trying to appeal to the west and forget about your fans in the first place is a bad idea. I'll blame a company for this but I wont say who. :P


I take back what I said. The guy is just having a bad day. Capcom had the lowest net income since 2004 so, I don't blame him for saying that anymore.

 

But, something is seriously wrong with Wada though.

But he said the Japanese gaming industry is doomed 1 year ago

At least Wada's company just saw their record year in profit.

Inafune on the other hand......



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Okay, I did get quite harsh on him in the gamrfeed news, but I guess he's just not happy with the way Capcom is going and is just having a difficult time getting his thoughts through.

Still, he is beginning to lose it.



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darthdevidem01 said:

A summary of what he said in a recent interview:

Just to make a summary of what he said in that interview:

- Everyone at the TGS is making awful games
- Japanese game developers are making games that are 5 years behind and stuck in the last-gen mindset
- There is no diversity or originality in game play, ideas, or design
- Capcom is barely keeping up
- Japan is behind because when they find an idea that works, they stick with the formula, just tweaking graphics and/or image quality
- Japan is also behind because publishers are not putting $75 million budgets behind the games for development/marketing
- Shadow of Rome failed because it was only superficially westernized
- Resident Evil, on the other hand, succeeded because the main character was American and spoke English
- Japanese games cannot be popular overseas anymore in their pure state; they are like sushi and North America requires California Rolls.
- Monster Hunter will never be a success overseas because it is Japanese to the core and any attempt to change it will make it unpopular in Japan
- Games that sell globally are best, but selling only in Japan is okay if they make a profit
- It's getting harder to make a profit on Japan-only software because the domestic market is smaller than ever
- Buying overseas companies is just a start, it takes a lot of work to yield proper dividends from such a relationship
- Lost Planet 1 was totally okay for westerners, but the team that made Lost Planet 2 screwed up and made it too Japanese and that's why it failed
- You can't take on America head-on, you have to use strategy
- Inafune's strategy was to bring robots into the game and use harsh environments, but Lost Planet 2 lost its way
- He can't do everything he wants to do at Capcom. He's been strong-arming things through but there's still a lot of resistance
- Pay is shitty, leadership is nebulous, and Inafune thinks he can't be on the board or directors because management thinks developers are stupid. That's the difference between Nintendo and Capcom.
- If Capcom changes, the Japanese games industry will change.
- Level 5 rox
- It's too late for Japan to enter the US gaming market, it will take years now. Japan needs to focus on entering emerging markets in China and Korea.
- Japanese gaming is dead
- Inafune loves Japan and wants to save it
- Everyone needs to face up to the reality that the Japanese games industry is dead.
- Capcom is ranked low globally, is dead no matter how you approach it. Resident Evil only sold 5 million copies. Not good enough.
- Inafune fancies himself like the revolutionary samurai Ryoma Sakamoto, who made strong efforts to open up Japan to the West and got assassinated.
- Inafune daydreams about being assassinated in medieval times for being so bad-ass.

I mean, look at that. Look at his criticisms. He hasn't got the slightest clue about what Western games are doing to succeed. Oh yes, Western developers never stick to the formula... what was the top-selling game last year again? Call of Duty 6, was it?

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LOLOLOLOLOL @ INAFUNE!


His remark about SUSHI is funny because alot of Americans eat sushi and not just California Rolls LOL.

I would also say the LP2 was more Westernized then LP was because it had SP campaign with a much weaker story and very much reliant on CO-OP and very much was about MP. 



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