darthdevidem01 said:
A203D said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darkknightkryta said:
jarrod said:
darkknightkryta said:
jarrod said:
darkknightkryta said:
I honestly don't think Japanese devs can figure this out but your games not selling isn't because they're not "western" they don't sell cause you put everything on the DS and make nothing for consoles.
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The companies heavily supporting DS (Level-5, Square Enix, Atlus, etc) and to a lesser extent PSP, seem to be the ones doing better actually. And Capcom's been pretty shitty on DS support actually, until just this year.
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Yes you are correct. But I think I got a revelation, the only devs complaining are Konami, Capcom and Square. Not sure why Konami's complaining, but with Capcom their complaints are that their games arn't selling well enough in the West, but the only games arn't selling are bad games made by "western" devs everything made by Capcom Japan is selling well here. Now with Square, you are correct about them supporting DS and PSP and making money off of them, but they keep on complaining for Western sales just like Capcom. But I think with Square my point holds, their handheld games sell well here, but most of their sales come from Japan. I think Square's complaints will go away with more console games. I mean not including Eidos' games the only console games from Square in the last, what 5 years, is Final Fantasy 13 and The Last Remnant. I think Square will get more sales in the "West" if they just make console games which they have been neglecting.
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Well yeah, Capcom's complaints are doubly WTF since all their big deal western ventures have seemed to bomb spectacularly (Bionic Commando, Spyborgs, Dark Void). Expect Dead Rising 2 and DmC to follow in their footsteps.
Square Enix has done pretty well in the west even on DS/PSP though. Crisis Core, Dissidia, FFIII/IV, DQIX and KH 358/2d were all relative hits, and I'd say KH BBS/Re:Coded are going to do well also. I'd agree, more HD RPGs would help in the west, but they're pretty lacking Wii side as well.
Konami, I dunno. It seems like they threw everything they had into MGS, and the rest of the company has suffered as a result. The best Konami games I've played this gen were the WiiWare ReBirth titles, and M2 made those. :/
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Yeah Square has had success with handhelds here, but I think he (Wada) wants 4 million sales for each game and well, I'm too lazy to look, but I don't think Square has gotten sales from handelds that high, except for Dragon Quest. Or Wada's just crazy which I think is the case. I think Wada reads too much forums or listens to gaming press too much. I still hold by that if Square just made good console games they'd get their 5 million sellers. On the other end with Capcom, I'm sure if they internally develop games instead of outsourcing they'd get their sales too (But that might be wrong cause Clover games never lit up the charts), or better yet maybe they should start advertising some games on T.V. I havn't seen an ad from Capcom since Street Fighter 4 (Can't remember if they made any for Resident Evil).
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SE will have more 5 Million sellers on consoles this gen:
- FF 15
- FF Versus 13
- KH3
- DQX - maybe
I think thats as much as last gen......if its less blame there being less than 2 KH's this gen
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The problem with this is that, how many of those sales will come from the west and how many from Japan??, and those franchises are well established names, other than those, nothing else from SE could really hit 4 mil imo. no offense!, but i dont really think they could do it again without the FF brand.
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I dunno with FF, its getting weaker in Japan but staying realitvely stable in strength in the west. (stronger in Europe since FF13 is most likely gonna outsell FF10 there and become the best selling FF since 7)
Then KH got stronger in Japan, but weaker in the west.
DQ is getting stronger in both places thankfully, well at least in Europe looking at DQIX....probably not in America.
Its a mixed bag and confusing
Lets just look a it worldwide for the purpose of this thread for now.
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