He did say that. -_-

Although, that isn't exactly a defense on its own, unless he actually does roleclaim and its believable.

Ok I made my mind... this is basically deciding who the mafia kill of the day is by swapping me for it. I still have to decide who to protect, me or someone else (you never know what goes on in mafiosi heads).

I believe Homer is more likely to be town.

MGS i'm voting for you now, though I will log back on before day's end I guess you can role claim, it didn't seem a very important role from the way you spoke...

Vote : MGS

(this is weak... I suspect Vett more

dsister hasn't posted much (or I fogot) and nen-suer is suspicious; I would vote for either.  But I don't want Heph to die so I'm sticking with my vote for now. 

Homer ... frankly he's not all that suspicious, but still more so than Heph and the consequences of losing Heph are worse AFAIK. 

For the record I hate this hardlocked deadline and I resent all of you who pressured dtewi into doing it.  If it does any good I vote for an extension. 

Aha ! I knew there was something wrong with heph's initial role claim.

well, you have pretty much removed all the reasons I voted for you from the cards.

Unvote : Hephaestos

As for people saying your power is way overpowered, I say be vary of them. They're probably either confused townies or mafia scum who want to find out more about your role.

You see people, he seems unkillable, and overpowered - but he isn't. Its an innocent lie to shield the mafia away from his weaknesses. So kindly STFU about him now.

Either way, I'm willing to admit that I was indeed reflected to some random asshole with the kill power.

About teh n00bz

I really think that lynching either of the 3 Metal_Gear, radish and homer is a bad idea. If they were scum, they're bound to slip up as the game progresses.

radish has hinted that he can bring the twins back.

MG would be "playing horribly" (to put it nice) if he were anti-town.

Homer claims that he will lose his powers if he were to role claim.

Now, no matter how scummy these people sound, I request the town to factor in the n00b factorz.... I feel sympathetic towards noobs for a reason.... In my first game...I believe it was a small vanilla game with 8 or so players, I randomly voted for people, accused people of being scum and my only defense when about to be lynched was "Please don't lynch me. I'm pro-town. Trust me.".

And I was pro-town....and the people I suspected were the only 2 mafia in the entire game. The noob was right all along. Again, if they were scum, it would become obvious as the game goes on.

So who do we vote for then ? I say we hit someone rather experienced but sounds scummy...That brings me to, 

Vote : Vetteman94

The reason as he states where he stealthily voted Heph (bandwagon ?) was because Heph's refusal to nameclaim and his not so believable role claim sounded scummy to him. It was one of the reasons I voted for him too. However, after Heph's new role claim, its safe to say that pretty much everything has fallen to place. Yet, he has refused to remove his vote for the risk of losing a powerful pro-town and is accusing him of lying about claiming to be a vanilla townie one time and having a one time use power in another time when one has actually caused the other (Heph's initial role claim). Is he seriously trying to find a hole so minute in Heph's original story (which is probably caused by vetteman's refusal to think a little or him being scum) just to keep his vote on him ?

This would've being a FoS if we weren't rapidly running out of time.

It wasn't a lie.... The entire first role claim was a partial lie to protect himself... I was gonna say, either Heph is refusing to name claim cause he is scum, doesn't want the mafia to know that the name of his role was used or cause he is hiding something.

They're not..but one is caused by the other. He may not be a real vanilla townie, but he would've been converted into one when he had used his one time use power...if his original role claim was true that is...even though it was a lie.

About the I'm pro-town thing

Utterly cheap horsecrap. This is so cheap that it hurts. I refuse to say it, partly because I think it is cheap and partly because I've said it already. 

I'd like to request that anyone who ever does this again in future mafia games get modkilled with immediate effect.

From now on,

no mass name claims.

no mass lie detector assistance sessions.

no mass anything that would kill the purpose of the game.

OK, after reviewing the vote tally, it looks like MGS and Homer are equally lynchable.  But Heph really wants it to be MGS, and I don't really care between those two, and TOS probably doesn't either.  And we're the only ones I know are online.  So: 

Unvote Homer_Simpson
Vote MetalGear-94

And I believe that puts us at

HEPHAESTOS(L-5)
nen-suer, GoW_3Ever, Vetteman

HOMER_SIMPSON (L-6)
theprof00, TruckOSaurus

METALGEAR-94(L-5)
radishhead, Hephaestos, Final-Fan

Please don't lynch Metal_Gear or Homer_Simpson or Radish. Trust me...they'd slip up again sooner or later if they were mafia.

I propose we give them a chance to come up with defenses tomorrow (well except maybe radish, who seems to have won over the trust of the town somewhat). Tomorrow cause we are horribly out of time.

We lynch the fuck out of anyone who we think is the most scummy. And we can investigate them. I'm not saying I'm not gonna target one of them.

GOW, that's a great point, I totally forgot about Vetteman.  I would love to join you in voting him, but I'm not convinced we can pull it off in time. 

Will every player currently online please chime in on this?  We ought to lynch someone and IMO it shouldn't be Heph. 

Fixed.

I am going to role claim soon

OK so after looking back, assuming he's right it's tight but not as OMG DANGER as I thought it was.  As long as people are online we have time to be rational about this. 

EVERYBODY READING THIS:  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF LYNCHING VETTEMAN?!