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theRepublic said:
dsister said:

Ok, seem to be in a really boring situation. Night one and two result didn't result in anything and we have nothing to go on.  We wouldn't be in this situation if we had lynched day one. We would have so much more info.

A whole day disappears and you find this boring?

Maybe we found who was responsible.  

Nah, if that was the case I would have been in here minutes after the day started. Not avoiding the thread for two days :P



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I guess I will continue to talk to myself.

Final-Fan said:

Okay people I'm posting in a hurry so I haven't been able to read pages 12 or 13 and won't till I get back. 

But please

DO NOT LYNCH HEPHAESTOS

There is a simple way to do this.  GOW:  You say you got a kill ability.  Use it, tonight, on Heph.  I am confident you won't die till the end of the night at least so you should be able to do this.  And the town gets to use a lynch on someone else, which should make Republic happy. 

There.  Now ignore the debate over whether Heph is guilty everyone and do some scumhunting elsewhere.  

This ignores the possibility of a Mafia Busdriver (unlikely) or a Mafia Roleblocker (slightly more likely).  Either one blows up this plan, and if GoW_3ever dies after getting blocked, he won't be able to tell us.  A Mafia Busdriver could screw this up without us knowing even if GoW_3ever is still alive Tomorrow.



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theRepublic said:

No, they are not useless.  But I don't see a better suspect at the moment.

The situation we have here is really no different than the "cop" coming forward and saying he got a "guilty" verdict.  The question is whether we trust the "cop" or trust the accused in saying that he was "switched" with someone else.  Unless GoW_3ever lives through the Night and targets Hephaestos again, there's going to be a question mark over Hephaestos's head for the rest of the game.

If a better suspect comes along I will certainly vote for them, but Hephaestos is a pretty good lead at the moment.


I didn't see it from that angle... it's true that if the order of things would have been reversed (i.e.: GoW declares Heph has a killing role first then Heph claiming to have reflected all actions on him to someone else) then he would probably have been lynched by now.

So let's say for argument's sake that Heph is scum. For him to roleclaim like that it would mean that he knew that someone targetted him at night. For that to be possible he'd have to be a Mafia Watcher and watched himself.



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TruckOSaurus said:
theRepublic said:

No, they are not useless.  But I don't see a better suspect at the moment.

The situation we have here is really no different than the "cop" coming forward and saying he got a "guilty" verdict.  The question is whether we trust the "cop" or trust the accused in saying that he was "switched" with someone else.  Unless GoW_3ever lives through the Night and targets Hephaestos again, there's going to be a question mark over Hephaestos's head for the rest of the game.

If a better suspect comes along I will certainly vote for them, but Hephaestos is a pretty good lead at the moment.

I didn't see it from that angle... it's true that if the order of things would have been reversed (i.e.: GoW declares Heph has a killing role first then Heph claiming to have reflected all actions on him to someone else) then he would probably have been lynched by now.

So let's say for argument's sake that Heph is scum. For him to roleclaim like that it would mean that he knew that someone targetted him at night. For that to be possible he'd have to be a Mafia Watcher and watched himself.

I just noticed I ignored the possibility of Mafia roles like Busdriver and Roleblocker in my own post.  Those could screw up things even if GoD_3ever lives.

On to your post.

Hephaestos coming out at the beginning of the day like that is certainly worth some points in his favor.  It is not unheard of for scum to claim early in the game, Dsister in the Zombie game comes to mind, but he was under much more pressure.  Hephaestos wasn't really under pressure, and it does seem a bit unlikely he would have done that preemptively  as scum.  Your role idea for that to happen does seem far-fetched.



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theRepublic said:

Hephaestos coming out at the beginning of the day like that is certainly worth some points in his favor.  It is not unheard of for scum to claim early in the game, Dsister in the Zombie game comes to mind, but he was under much more pressure.  Hephaestos wasn't really under pressure, and it does seem a bit unlikely he would have done that preemptively  as scum.  Your role idea for that to happen does seem far-fetched.


yeah, the two aren't even very comparable. In the zombie game iirc it was roleclaim or you will be lynched(or it was getting to it) Of course I was sorta kinda roleclaiming on day 1.



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@Dsister and TruckOSaurus

You are both online right now.  What do you guys think about Vetteman and Nen-suer?



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theRepublic said:

@Dsister and TruckOSaurus

You are both online right now.  What do you guys think about Vetteman and Nen-suer?


To be honest I haven't been able to give it a serious read through yet. The two people that I find suspicious now are Heph and Metal gear, but just for reasons already listed.

I'm  tired of this stinking netbook and will be super happy when I get my computer running!!!

I'll get into the game by Monday... 'cause I'm lazy like that



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c03n3nj0 said:
MetalGear_94 said:
How hard do you think its going to be finding the real sephiroth

Well first what do you have to say besides "it was a joke!"?

What do you mean?

You were my first suspect for being Sephiroth, remember? 
I come back and make my first post in a while, you say, "hi Aerith!" 

And I then pointed out how odd it was that you decided to change your avatar to a Sephiroth one, and after I did so (and nen seemed to agree with me) you switched to kefka (without mentioning any of what I said) and then back to that goat, for some reason. 

I don't think it means much.  I mean he changes his avatar to look like Sephiroth and then tells someone "hi Aerith".  That's just ... for one thing you're suggesting that he was told who Aerith was.  I don't know why dtewi would have done that; I mean, it would let him avoid killing you before your time, but it seems like a strange thing to me.  Although the more I think of it the more it makes at least a LITTLE bit of sense...

I just don't think he's Sephiroth.  But IMO he could be an antagonist in general.  The way he gave himself multiple "FF bad guy" avatars could be a result of him being personally amused that he was a bad guy.  It seems pretty dumb whether he was good or bad but it might be more likely that being bad would cause him to do it.  But I don't know if I'm willing to vote him based on that. 

FoS MetalGear.



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theRepublic said:I guess I will continue to talk to myself.
Final-Fan said:
Okay people I'm posting in a hurry so I haven't been able to read pages 12 or 13 and won't till I get back.  But please DO NOT LYNCH HEPHAESTOS

There is a simple way to do this.  GOW:  You say you got a kill ability.  Use it, tonight, on Heph.  I am confident you won't die till the end of the night at least so you should be able to do this.  And the town gets to use a lynch on someone else, which should make Republic happy. 

There.  Now ignore the debate over whether Heph is guilty everyone and do some scumhunting elsewhere.  

This ignores the possibility of a Mafia Busdriver (unlikely) or a Mafia Roleblocker (slightly more likely).  Either one blows up this plan, and if GoW_3ever dies after getting blocked, he won't be able to tell us.  A Mafia Busdriver could screw this up without us knowing even if GoW_3ever is still alive Tomorrow.

Yeah I guess that's true.  I didn't consider that when maybe I should have.  In my defense the powers revealed so far are pretty weird and not from earlier games so it's entirely possible the mafia have neither of those roles.  But the risk is something to consider. 

However, as for GoW "double checking" the power that was claimed to have been reflected ... it's a good idea, but are we sure he'll live long enough to tell us the result? 

I guesss he could just be a vigilante tonight on whoever he suspects...



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To the people asking me to steal hephaestos' power on night 3 -

As theRepublic has also pointed out, a mafia roleblocker or busdriver will rape me.

Even if I get through those , Heph's possible kill ability could mean a couple of things -

1. Vigilante

2. SK

3. Mafia

A) Fixed mafia assassin - If this is the case, I will get the kill ability again.

B) Designated mafia assassin for the night - In this case, the mafia will obviously use someone else as the killer. And I won't get the kill ability.

I think my one last shot at this power (if I don't die tonight) would be much more useful at possibly putting a townie in the clear or catching a scum bag.

About Metal_Gear, he is still a noob at this...so I'm willing to give him a chance. I'd appreciate it if he posts more than "PLEASE DON"T LYNCH MEEEEEEEZ !". 

Interestingly, we now HAVE to find sephiroth tomorrow, on Day 4 or j0 dies (assuming that he is Aerith, and truthful). Also, this could be another reason why the antagonists skipped a day.....to get closer to killing Aerith.

Stefl1504 said:

That is actually... A REALLY GOD IDEA!

Though it does not matter I would not vote for Metalgear because I was somehow in the same situation in my first mafia game... I was joking arround and got killed for it... but since I cannot vote it doesn't matter that much...

No one else saw this.....really ? Well, this is interesting....why exactly can't you vote ?