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im a bit confused, its day 3?

and are the stoned people dead? or can they come back?



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Hephaestos said:
MetalGear_94 said:

@Hephaestos

Why are you so against name claiming

where is the need of my name in all this? that's just info for the mafia.

Are you kidding? ROLE CALMING is what important and you gave that away so easily

You think mafia cares about your name ?

unvote

Vote: Hephaestos

Its pretty obvious to me ur scum now



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

About what happened to me, I was "doomed" on night one...or two... I have either one or two days to live, and I shall die...more on that later, I gotta go to the doctor....stomach bug...lol..

which one is it 1 or 2 ?

Doom is FF takes around 3 turn to take effect, so if we consider the days in this games as turns

then i think skipping the day would make you die faster (in theory).

The question is did these 2 events happened by chance or were part of a plan ?



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GoWs story is..well...hard to swallow, because I'm pretty sure doom outright kills, it doesn't halve his life.

However, this makes a lot of sense consider the time skip that occurred.

I'm going to go out on a limb and theorize that the "dome based time effect" delayed mafia actions and the mafia "ultimecia/ff8-based time effect" delayed town actions.

However, there are several pieces of info that serve as contradictory evidence:

A) P&P move happened on night 1.
-1 P&P move must be used to work
-2 P&P move is a reaction to something else
B) FF8 time warp thing happened before the battle
C) dome happened during/after battle
D) Night 2 is erased from the chart
E) No mafia kill
F) GoW3 receives "kill" ability
G) Hephs reflect

Because of E, which would have happened on night one if B, then that means that G casued F which caused E, So, therefore, not B. A sub 1, proves not B, which proves G->F->E and results in D.

But, if B, then Asub2, triggered by some kind of kill, which means G never happened. Because either G is a lie, or F is a lie, or F comes from a vigilante.

Basically all I can deduce from this is that

a) Dtewi made a mistake in the wording
b) There is a vigilante
c) gow3 is lying
d) heph is lying

Then only relatively strong info here is that there is a vigilante. I'm not going to ask the vig whether or not he used his power, because that would still leave a) and two suspects as well as outing the vig.

Now, if the time warp happened before, then gow3 should die tonight, if dtewi made a mistake, he will die tomorrow night, unless from what he says it is delayed somehow, then he will die on night...5? I'm beginning to uderstand why this would be irritating, because it's not set in stone when you will die and requesting doctor's aid is kind of a waste in itself (as far as he knows).

I believe we have the power to slow down these status effects aside from a doctor.

PS: This game is as crazy if not moreso than round 19.



GodOfWar_3ever said:

I am Locke. I have 20MP and I can steal the night action of someone I wish. Each steal costs 10MP, so I can use it twice. I can only steal night temporarily (one night) and the person I stole from will get their power back for the next night.

I targeted Hephaestos last night I got the "kill" ability. And no...I didn't use it...though it was a tough decision cause I suspected nen...

 

So either,

The random person he reflected me to can kill.

The specific person he reflected to can kill (assuming he was lying about it being random....which is why I asked you this question)

He is a lying scum, and has the kill ability. If not, I would've gotten the reflect ability ? Either dtewi considers his reflect ability of higher priority than my steal ability, thus meaning that I stole the ability of the person I was reflected to or hephaestos is lying.

So Hep was targets and the attack got reflected and hit scum...sure

the odds of that happening is less than 1/17. Its more likely means that he indeed have a killing ability and I'm right

sorry but:

- asking to whomever targted to ignore the result (he is certain the reflect hit a scum)

- revealing his role without reason but not wanting to reveal him name

- his reflect ability details are hard to accept

Too much bull for my taste.



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theprof00 said:

Because of E, which would have happened on night one if B, then that means that G casued F which caused E, So, therefore, not B. A sub 1, proves not B, which proves G->F->E and results in D.

But, if B, then Asub2, triggered by some kind of kill, which means G never happened. Because either G is a lie, or F is a lie, or F comes from a vigilante.

Basically all I can deduce from this is that

a) Dtewi made a mistake in the wording
b) There is a vigilante
c) gow3 is lying
d) heph is lying

Then only relatively strong info here is that there is a vigilante. I'm not going to ask the vig whether or not he used his power, because that would still leave a) and two suspects as well as outing the vig.

why cant you post like normal people >_<
am gonna focus at these 4 points

I gnore "a" unless dtewi says something about it

Assuming Hep & Gow aren't lying

Why do u think there is a vigliant? Isn't it more likely that the reflect hit a mafia member?



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tl;dr version

all actions happened night 1.

Doom should kill gow tonight unless slowed down.




nen-suer said:
theprof00 said:

Because of E, which would have happened on night one if B, then that means that G casued F which caused E, So, therefore, not B. A sub 1, proves not B, which proves G->F->E and results in D.

But, if B, then Asub2, triggered by some kind of kill, which means G never happened. Because either G is a lie, or F is a lie, or F comes from a vigilante.

Basically all I can deduce from this is that

a) Dtewi made a mistake in the wording
b) There is a vigilante
c) gow3 is lying
d) heph is lying

Then only relatively strong info here is that there is a vigilante. I'm not going to ask the vig whether or not he used his power, because that would still leave a) and two suspects as well as outing the vig.

why cant you post like normal people >_<
am gonna focus at these 4 points

I gnore "a" unless dtewi says something about it

Assuming Hep & Gow aren't lying

Why do u think there is a vigliant? Isn't it more likely that the reflect hit a mafia member?

I thought it was the easiest way to convey the thought process..

Look if all actions happened on day one, and dtewi made a mistake, then I believe gows ability could have come from a mafia or a vigilante, or an SK. So, actually a pretty good chance being 5/17, almost 28% or so of that time he would find "kill"

If dtewi did not make a mistake, then the mafia actions happened on night 1, triggering P&P's ability somehow, which would result in a no kill. This means that the rest of town acted on night 2, not 1, and gows ability turned up a vigilante kill ability.



3- Adding your "i'm not a main character, just a support one." makes me believe ur 99.99% scum.

 


As scummy as the two support characters that just died?



nen-suer said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

About what happened to me, I was "doomed" on night one...or two... I have either one or two days to live, and I shall die...more on that later, I gotta go to the doctor....stomach bug...lol..

which one is it 1 or 2 ?

Doom is FF takes around 3 turn to take effect, so if we consider the days in this games as turns

then i think skipping the day would make you die faster (in theory).

The question is did these 2 events happened by chance or were part of a plan ?

How the hell am I supposed to know how many days I've got left ? I gave everything I have to the town and if I don't die tonight, I'll use my ability again...