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nen-suer on 17 September 2010
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

I have a hard time believing this role claim. Please let us know to whom you diverted people who targeted you to. And the truth, OK ? It wouldn't hurt the person you diverted to or yourself since you've essentially role claimed now.


elsewhere = random (same as in the games I believe)

otherwise i'd have told the cops to still come out ^^ as I could have directed the info the actual perp.

and if it wasn't random, my strat would have been absurd.

nameclaiming would not help the town, and i'm not a main character, just a support one.

 

ps: at work so logged on but can't post much till lunch break.

1- Name claiming isn't what important, its ur actual role witch you so easily revealed

2- You toke a chance that would have most likely killed a pro-town just like the previous game and you were the SK

3- Adding your "i'm not a main character, just a support one." makes me believe ur 99.99% scum.

 

I wont vote you now, i'll wait for your break and listen to your defense



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GodOfWar_3ever on 17 September 2010
nen-suer said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

FoS : nen-suer... why are you so reluctant to accept that day 2 was skipped ? people have also said that there is a role in FF that is capable of doing so.

Then answer my question, what did it accomplish ?

Don't why your so dismissive of any other explanation, how can you be that sure ?

If all the answers were so easy, what the hell is the point of this game ?

There is obviously something to it... and what happened to me (in the post above) may have happened on night 2. The mafia get a huge strategic advantage cause of that.

They are pretty stupid to use the skipping a day power on night one I believe...they could've easily skipped the day where they go into the night with...say, 4 pro-town and 2 mafia. they kill someone at night, skip the day, and kill someone else at the next night. That would have been an ideal time to use that power.



nen-suer on 17 September 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:

About what happened to me, I was "doomed" on night one...or two... I have either one or two days to live, and I shall die...more on that later, I gotta go to the doctor....stomach bug...lol..

wait, what exactly happened what did ur pm say



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nen-suer on 17 September 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:

"Otherwise, how does dtewi chose who your targeters get reflected to ?"

Just to clarify cause of my english phail - by this I mean that dtewi will probably have to use something like random.org to find out the new target. Stuff like that is pretty horrible and I doubt dtewi would have something like this if he weren't out of his mind.

Another thing to consider is how he would have chosen the target if you used your power during the end game...if the mafia did target you, and you used reflect, who would you divert it to ? the mafia dude or the townie ?

so a random decision can cause either faction to win or lose ?

As I've said before...your role is either bullshit that you've made up, or you're not telling us everything.

Roles with random results are very common in mafia games i don't know why its hard to believe his ability is.

But Reflect in FF reflect the attack from a member from ur party to a random target from the enemy side

the reflected magic wont hit one of your own men. So if Hep is pro-town no pro-town should be hit by the

reflected magic and i think he is lying either about his role or alignment.



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Hephaestos on 17 September 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:

So in reality, the chances of the town winning is 25%, not 50%.

You also claim that you were given 2 options...use your power on night 1 or "the end game". What exactly is the end game as defined in your role PM ?


where did I say I only had 2 options? however in my mind the only logical options were these indeed. mid game it'd be just waisted in randomness. If I try to put myself forward as I did first day later on, i'd just be a lynch target.

 

on the last day scenario... I said once the kill is reflected it's 50%, anywyas, the % doesn't matter, it's a chance higher than the 0% that it would normally be....



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Hephaestos on 17 September 2010
nen-suer said:
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

I have a hard time believing this role claim. Please let us know to whom you diverted people who targeted you to. And the truth, OK ? It wouldn't hurt the person you diverted to or yourself since you've essentially role claimed now.


elsewhere = random (same as in the games I believe)

otherwise i'd have told the cops to still come out ^^ as I could have directed the info the actual perp.

and if it wasn't random, my strat would have been absurd.

nameclaiming would not help the town, and i'm not a main character, just a support one.

 

ps: at work so logged on but can't post much till lunch break.

1- Name claiming isn't what important, its ur actual role witch you so easily revealed

2- You toke a chance that would have most likely killed a pro-town just like the previous game and you were the SK

3- Adding your "i'm not a main character, just a support one." makes me believe ur 99.99% scum.

 

I wont vote you now, i'll wait for your break and listen to your defense

2- OMG you guys are so thick it's unbelievable.

For the 100th time.

when a bulet is shot at someone and you reflect it at random, 2 things happen:

- YOU save the life of the initial target

- you can kill the scum with the reflect

so no my strat was NOT A RISK AT ALL FOR THE TOWN as if the strat fails, one townie died anyways.s



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Hephaestos on 17 September 2010
nen-suer said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

"Otherwise, how does dtewi chose who your targeters get reflected to ?"

Just to clarify cause of my english phail - by this I mean that dtewi will probably have to use something like random.org to find out the new target. Stuff like that is pretty horrible and I doubt dtewi would have something like this if he weren't out of his mind.

Another thing to consider is how he would have chosen the target if you used your power during the end game...if the mafia did target you, and you used reflect, who would you divert it to ? the mafia dude or the townie ?

so a random decision can cause either faction to win or lose ?

As I've said before...your role is either bullshit that you've made up, or you're not telling us everything.

Roles with random results are very common in mafia games i don't know why its hard to believe his ability is.

But Reflect in FF reflect the attack from a member from ur party to a random target from the enemy side

the reflected magic wont hit one of your own men. So if Hep is pro-town no pro-town should be hit by the

reflected magic and i think he is lying either about his role or alignment.


now wouldn't that be overpowered... an ability that protects and gives a sure kill at the same time... it's like a bomb but better as it only targets the bad guys... intersting but it's not it.

in FF it reflects from my party to the enemy side... sure, can you please tell me who is in the town party right now? no, cause as the OP said, we're all town and lost our memory, so as far as our characters are aware, we're all in the same group.

 

and FoS 3ever

1) you continuously misquote me.

2) what kind of a reaction is that for a townie "i'm pissed at what happened to me last night", townies know they are helpless to mafia kills, your reaction should have been "cool I got killed but I still have 2 days to live". This is a big FoS to me, as dying is no reason to be mad as a townie, it's what is expected.



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nen-suer on 17 September 2010
Hephaestos said:
nen-suer said:
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

I have a hard time believing this role claim. Please let us know to whom you diverted people who targeted you to. And the truth, OK ? It wouldn't hurt the person you diverted to or yourself since you've essentially role claimed now.


elsewhere = random (same as in the games I believe)

otherwise i'd have told the cops to still come out ^^ as I could have directed the info the actual perp.

and if it wasn't random, my strat would have been absurd.

nameclaiming would not help the town, and i'm not a main character, just a support one.

 

ps: at work so logged on but can't post much till lunch break.

1- Name claiming isn't what important, its ur actual role witch you so easily revealed

2- You toke a chance that would have most likely killed a pro-town just like the previous game and you were the SK

3- Adding your "i'm not a main character, just a support one." makes me believe ur 99.99% scum.

 

I wont vote you now, i'll wait for your break and listen to your defense

2- OMG you guys are so thick it's unbelievable.

For the 100th time.

when a bulet is shot at someone and you reflect it at random, 2 things happen:

- YOU save the life of the initial target

- you can kill the scum with the reflect

so no my strat was NOT A RISK AT ALL FOR THE TOWN as if the strat fails, one townie died anyways.s

I'll accept that, but give us ur name NOW

 

am going to a relative wedding so i will be out for a while in the mean time

pressure Hep i think he is lying



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MetalGear_94 on 17 September 2010

@Hephaestos

Why are you so against name claiming



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Final-Fan on 17 September 2010

Come on Heph, what can it hurt to tell us your name?  Unless of course your name is Kefkultimesin. 



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