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theprof00 said:

I changed my mind. I believe vette is town because of my cryptic information, but I am also hesitant to believe it. All I know is vette cannot be right, but he made a move against me making me think he's scum. And everything I say, he says is scum. He wants me lynched, but for what reason I don't know. At first I thought he was scum, but after reviewing what he did last game, there is ALSO the possibility that he's making a very basic mistake in that he assumes everyone that has claimed town and isn't lying isn't a mafia. This is under the assumption that good ff character = pro-town.

This "cryptic" info, are you willing to share this information with all of us here? I don't see why you wouldn't share it.....it couldn't harm the town. 

I would agree with him in any other situation.

But the fact is that there are many main characters I could have picked from if I were a mafia. If I were smart, I would have picked a high profile character.

Just to play along, I would know Vaan is most likely not in the game because dtewi hates vaan. I would stay away from zidane, because ff9 is dtewis favorite ff. Basch from 12 would be a good one, because he's "safe" and if I was investigated I could potentially claim that I was a miller (a townie who upon investigation comes up mafia). I could also claim a summon like alexander, or even boko the chocobo and claimed that I couldn't read, so that's why my messages were cryptic (if I were really desperate).

It's not my fault that my character is an unpopular one. I didn't pick it!

Ok I see where your coming from but you can't assume dtewi's  tastes have affected his character selection because dtewi doesn't think much of cloud or vanille or FF4's characters....yet they are in this game. Dtewi loathes FF8 in general yet Ultimecia is in this game......so I wouldn't assume his taste has impacted character selection by that much.

And say you picked a High profile character and someone challenged your role claim (even though most have role claimed now).......but I will trust you on that for now because I have realized most people have roleclaimed now.

I'm only unkillable, not unlynchable.

Answer my question though, why didn't you tell this to the town before? Why tell the town this now? Because in effect if you don't get lynched, "we" (the town) have won, nothing else can kill your right? Not even poison or anything?

I mean people that pop in for 10 minutes a day, skim through the posts and bandwagon onto what other people are saying. It's frustrating. I like how Hat plays. He's very psychological, and makes a lot of gambles. However, he falls for the pity card so easily.

Basically, what vette is doing. Coming in, askign a couple questions and leaving. Relying on his power/role information more than anything else, and not taking the time to think of possibilities.

Ok I see what you mean, but you have to see not everyone is on the computer all the time and the time regions are different, I would also hate people doing that but we can't expect people to devote hours to this game. 

I think we should lynch homer, because he's the obvious mafia. However, now that we know who he is, we should really be looking at everyone else as well. I KNOW that there are mafia hiding under town names. It could be the moogle, it could be aeris. At this point, what I'm thinking is kill Homer, kill j0, and have vette investigate every person throughout the days asking specifically "Is X lying" using the information provided by every single person saying "I'm a protagonist".

Ok right, I agree lynching Homer's the best option now, but I really want to see who actually made him lynch himself. And why are you certain a Townie is in disguise? Aerith of all people......moogle does seem more suspicious in that respect? One mroe thing are we certain all the role claims so far are 100% accurate? Mine and Hatmoza's are definitely accurate and I'd say Metal_Gear's too. We need to protect those of us that are left, thats Metal_Gear 94's power!!

As you say your "unkillable", as long as no-one convinces everyone else to lynch you Town can win.

I hope you haven't been tricking me. I still want Vett to come online soon and talk things through here!





All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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theprof00 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
theprof00 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

True that she did. 

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BTW if your "unkillable" is that a power you can only use a few times or is it permanent? It can't possibly be permanent...

I'm not unlynchable though.

oh-kay

But why didn't you tell us this before? Like in day 2 or something? You'd have no proof but it would be handy to know this.

Because if I'm a target for the mafia they will try to kill me and fail, saving the town a night kill. I've written to Heph earlier that I would see him on day 9. That was a hint that I would survive that long. Because I'm unkillable.

Earlier, I wrote that I had a theory why there was no mafia kill. It was because I was targeted. And it was probably because I was on to something.

I see...ignore the part in my last post where I ask you to explain this

Ok so that was a good plan you had and it does explain the no mafia kill successfuly. 

Why didn't you say any of this to Vett!!! Now we need to wait for him to get back online.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

darthdevidem01 said:

I see...ignore the part in my last post where I ask you to explain this

Ok so that was a good plan you had and it does explain the no mafia kill successfuly. 

Why didn't you say any of this to Vett!!! Now we need to wait for him to get back online.

You don't understand. Last game I had proof that there was a mafia busser, and argued with him nearly 50 posts or more, and he wouldn't accept it. He will not accept anything I say, because he has total confidence that he is right.



theprof00 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

I see...ignore the part in my last post where I ask you to explain this

Ok so that was a good plan you had and it does explain the no mafia kill successfuly. 

Why didn't you say any of this to Vett!!! Now we need to wait for him to get back online.

You don't understand. Last game I had proof that there was a mafia busser, and argued with him nearly 50 posts or more, and he wouldn't accept it. He will not accept anything I say, because he has total confidence that he is right.

Ok.

Well for the time being lets Vote for Homer

And how many powers do you have? 

- you can make Homer lynch himself

- You are unkillable

- You get "cryptic" info.....that you haven't revealed to us yet!

Vote: Homer



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

darthdevidem01 said:
theprof00 said:


This "cryptic" info, are you willing to share this information with all of us here? I don't see why you wouldn't share it.....it couldn't harm the town. 

I already did. It was a sentence with words missing saying "follow vette and dsis etc etc Nensuer etc will also die"- that's the gist of it. It's my power. I got the same message twice because I targeted the same person twice. My power was like 'target someone, you will receive a message with an amount of information based on a random factor. I can get 3 names, 2, or 1, or even 0 (but I presume zero would have given me much better sentence coherence.

Ok I see where your coming from but you can't assume dtewi's  tastes have affected his character selection because dtewi doesn't think much of cloud or vanille or FF4's characters....yet they are in this game. Dtewi loathes FF8 in general yet Ultimecia is in this game......so I wouldn't assume his taste has impacted character selection by that much.

Ok, barring that taste may not have a factor in the game, every single person has claimed with the exception of ultimecia and vetteman. Why would I pick such an unpopular character, when the risks I would take by claiming a popular name are like 1 out of 50? Those are very good odds! I don't see why he thinks I would be so scared of a 2% chance that I would pick an unpopular character. That's just silly.

And say you picked a High profile character and someone challenged your role claim (even though most have role claimed now).......but I will trust you on that for now because I have realized most people have roleclaimed now.

If I picked a high profile character and got challenged.. I would probably just fight it and say he was a liar and try to take down a townie with me.

Answer my question though, why didn't you tell this to the town before? Why tell the town this now? Because in effect if you don't get lynched, "we" (the town) have won, nothing else can kill your right? Not even poison or anything?

N/A

Ok I see what you mean, but you have to see not everyone is on the computer all the time and the time regions are different, I would also hate people doing that but we can't expect people to devote hours to this game. 

It's not about being on the computer all the time or not. It's about letting the people who are playing make the decisions, and if you're on the sideline, just pick a side and stay there. Because some of us are trying to figure things out, and others are just being very casual about the facts and have a very aloof attitude about everything, lynching whoever they have the slightest bit of information on.

Ok right, I agree lynching Homer's the best option now, but I really want to see who actually made him lynch himself. And why are you certain a Townie is in disguise? Aerith of all people......moogle does seem more suspicious in that respect?

Because there has to be. If there is another mafia beside homer, I'm not it, so it has to be one of the people vette has "verified".

I suspect j0 because more than anyone, every time he is accused he falls back on his name. Almost every single time. Even everyone else says the same thing "Oh but he's aeris". It would be a great joke on all of you if Aeris was the SK. And this is why you will not win without me. Because you're all trapped "in the box".

One mroe thing are we certain all the role claims so far are 100% accurate? Mine and Hatmoza's are definitely accurate and I'd say Metal_Gear's too. We need to protect those of us that are left, thats Metal_Gear 94's power!!

As you say your "unkillable", as long as no-one convinces everyone else to lynch you Town can win.

yes, that's right. In fact, I can even force a tie if it's just me and the mafia or me and the SK left. I was probably meant to be silenced so that I'd be a complete waste, but I wasn't hit. (because I didn't give up my role like all the others). Looking at the situation, with only 1 mafia after Homer, and only one SK. My survival guarantees the town at least a tie at the VERY worst.

I hope you haven't been tricking me. I still want Vett to come online soon and talk things through here!







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darthdevidem01 said:
theprof00 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

I see...ignore the part in my last post where I ask you to explain this

Ok so that was a good plan you had and it does explain the no mafia kill successfuly. 

Why didn't you say any of this to Vett!!! Now we need to wait for him to get back online.

You don't understand. Last game I had proof that there was a mafia busser, and argued with him nearly 50 posts or more, and he wouldn't accept it. He will not accept anything I say, because he has total confidence that he is right.

Ok.

Well for the time being lets Vote for Homer

And how many powers do you have? 

- you can make Homer lynch himself

- You are unkillable

- You get "cryptic" info.....that you haven't revealed to us yet!

Vote: Homer

I don't honestly know if the lynch yourself thing is true. It's just a guess.

vote: homer



@theprof00

There's nothing more to discuss for now.

Lets wait for others to post now

Where is everyone!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

NOOOO!!!!!!!!

I dont want to die yet



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Grrrrr! I knew Kantor asking me to roleclaim would get me killed!

Go town!!!

/zombie



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I have no knowledge of the prof's role, but my investigation that confirmed who the SK was said he had an accomplice, hence the less mafia I assume.