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TheRealMafoo on 11 September 2010
babuks said:
TheRealMafoo said:
babuks said:

 

- Mohammed had 15 women, one of them he marriaged in the age of 6 years and made a child in the age of 9 years (when he was 53 years old)

You have to read the whole life style of him. He married at the age of 25 a woman of 40 years old. She was rich. She gave all her money to Muhammad (pbuh). And he spent all of them for poor.

Muhammad (pbuh) did not marry until his first wife died. And only the girl you mentioned of being 6 years old was a virgin, every other wives were widows. So, he did not marry them to meet his lust. His has done them for purpose. You have to read those marriage histories in order to find out the truth.

Umm... sorry, but wtf?

You telling me it's OK to overlook a man knocking up an 8-9 year old because he did some other things in his life that were good? Really? That's your argument?

Oh, and as for "eye for an eye" thing, that's the Jews. Jesus came and changed the rules for the Christians. Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek or some stupid shit.

Then you surely did not read the Bible. Jesus (pbuh) himself said that in Mathew 5:17 - 5:19 - "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till   heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Christianity is not a new religion. It is the same as the previous ones and you cannot change the laws of the previous Prophets. So, if you want to take his word as granted, you have to believe in the laws of the previous Prophets namely Moses (pbuh) and others. So, 'eye for an eye' is not jews' property. It is a Christian law as well.


An eye for an eye is not from the ten commandments. I have to go, but look up "he who is without sin cast the first stone" or something or other.



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ProdigyBam on 11 September 2010
TheRealMafoo said:
babuks said:
TheRealMafoo said:
babuks said:

 

- Mohammed had 15 women, one of them he marriaged in the age of 6 years and made a child in the age of 9 years (when he was 53 years old)

You have to read the whole life style of him. He married at the age of 25 a woman of 40 years old. She was rich. She gave all her money to Muhammad (pbuh). And he spent all of them for poor.

Muhammad (pbuh) did not marry until his first wife died. And only the girl you mentioned of being 6 years old was a virgin, every other wives were widows. So, he did not marry them to meet his lust. His has done them for purpose. You have to read those marriage histories in order to find out the truth.

Umm... sorry, but wtf?

You telling me it's OK to overlook a man knocking up an 8-9 year old because he did some other things in his life that were good? Really? That's your argument?

Oh, and as for "eye for an eye" thing, that's the Jews. Jesus came and changed the rules for the Christians. Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek or some stupid shit.

Then you surely did not read the Bible. Jesus (pbuh) himself said that in Mathew 5:17 - 5:19 - "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till   heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Christianity is not a new religion. It is the same as the previous ones and you cannot change the laws of the previous Prophets. So, if you want to take his word as granted, you have to believe in the laws of the previous Prophets namely Moses (pbuh) and others. So, 'eye for an eye' is not jews' property. It is a Christian law as well.


An eye for an eye is not from the ten commandments. I have to go, but look up "he who is without sin cast the first stone" or something or other.


I find I so funny, if someone takes that argument and doesnt even know what it is about.

"Eye for an eye" doesnt mean: "he took my eye so ill take his" No, it means, you always had to pay for whatyou have done. If you took an eye you had to pay 10 dollars for example (dont know what money it was back then) or if someone cut your hand of you had to pay the price of a hand - 15 dollars or something.

Just look it up at wikipedia or somewhere ;)



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Pimp3k on 11 September 2010

I hope that you all know that "Muslim terrorist organizations" are not only active terrorist cells in the world. There are also IRA and ETA that are terrorist organizations in Catholic countries. So saying that Muslim terrorist kill for God has at least for me as much sense as saying that IRA or ETA kill for their God... You are saying above that Muslims become terrorist because of propaganda, well that goes in both ways. You all see Muslims as terrorists simply because they are Muslims.

 



Slimebeast on 11 September 2010
KillerMan said:
Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.

Stop.

It's highly ignorant to say that Christianity as a religion is as violent as Islam. Can you show us some Christian theology that promotes violence?



Slimebeast on 11 September 2010
ProdigyBam said:

I started to see it, when i realized that the only people here in germany who make trouble come from muslim countries.

Dont be so stupid, its the world you live in and if we dont start to change something our children will have many problems...

Sorry to say it but I'm afraid it's too late for Germany, as it is for Sweden, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Austria and a few other nations.





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Tigerlure on 11 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
KillerMan said:
Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.

Stop.

It's highly ignorant to say that Christianity as a religion is as violent as Islam. Can you show us some Christian theology that promotes violence?


Can you show me some Islam theology that promotes violence? If it's so highly ignorant, why don't we as Americans start acting mature and quit accusing all Muslims of being evil?



whatever on 11 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
KillerMan said:
Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.

Stop.

It's highly ignorant to say that Christianity as a religion is as violent as Islam. Can you show us some Christian theology that promotes violence?

You apparently have not read the bible.

http://www.evilbible.com/



whatever on 11 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
ProdigyBam said:

I started to see it, when i realized that the only people here in germany who make trouble come from muslim countries.

Dont be so stupid, its the world you live in and if we dont start to change something our children will have many problems...

Sorry to say it but I'm afraid it's too late for Germany, as it is for Sweden, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Austria and a few other nations.

Replied to wrong post...



whatever on 11 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
KillerMan said:
Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.

Stop.

It's highly ignorant to say that Christianity as a religion is as violent as Islam. Can you show us some Christian theology that promotes violence?

"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei.  But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land.  Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.'  So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all.  We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan.  These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates.  We also took many unwalled villages at the same time.  We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered – men, women, and children alike.  But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns."   (Deuteronomy 3:1-7 NLT)



whatever on 11 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
KillerMan said:
Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.

Stop.

It's highly ignorant to say that Christianity as a religion is as violent as Islam. Can you show us some Christian theology that promotes violence?

"When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it.  They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything."

  (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)