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Forums - Sales - NA Pre-Orders UP! (Week ending 4th Sep 2010)!

It would have been nice to see a few Wii games up there, but as long as Nintendo has Miyamato pushing the classics, all is good. ;)

This thread has really devolved into a spatting Reach vs. Gran Turismo debate.  This is a a sales site, and it's good to debate.  But what I sense is 360 fanboyism praising sales over gaming.  Honestly, I'm not a fan of FPS's especially science fiction ones, ad I'm not a huge racing fan.  But I've always seen Gran Turismo as a hardcore staple for gamers.  And off the top of my head, I only count Fable III, Gran Turismo, and LBP2 as the hardcore selections on the top 20 NA pre-order list.  The market is going more and more casual with so many shooters and shooting based games especially.  This includes Halo Reach.  The Halo franchise has never appealed to me, and I'm not going to knock it because it's just not my preference.  Look, to have a game you're looking forward to that sells well is always nice.  But I'm afraid with the current climate it seems that some are using sales a fanboy ammo to help justify their fanboyism.  Either the hardcore gamer is dying out or being lost in a sea of casuals.  Either way, it's not a good sign of things to come.



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Jadedx said:

zgamer5 said:

full gt games are gt1 gt2 gt3 gt4 and now gt5.

if your so sure how about you bet? 

and since your so sure about 5 million how about we change the bet to gt5 wont reach 5 million. and well put the deadline to what end 2012 that would be 2 full years.. or if you want we can do that sells more then a full gt game bet but il see you in 4 years. and no im not a dumass if it stays for one year at 5 million im not going to say ridiculous comments. now its time to sleep, think wisely and choose.

and remember the looser has to leave the forum.

also read my edit on my original post, it talks about the terms.

S million is a random number I threw out, GT5 could sell less, could sell more, dunno.

I am however not gonna fall for your trap bet.


I'm not

Oh so since it could sell more... or sell less... (DUH!!!) and 5 million is just some "random number," you never had an argument to begin with.  Right?



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Jordahn said:
Jadedx said:

zgamer5 said:

full gt games are gt1 gt2 gt3 gt4 and now gt5.

if your so sure how about you bet? 

and since your so sure about 5 million how about we change the bet to gt5 wont reach 5 million. and well put the deadline to what end 2012 that would be 2 full years.. or if you want we can do that sells more then a full gt game bet but il see you in 4 years. and no im not a dumass if it stays for one year at 5 million im not going to say ridiculous comments. now its time to sleep, think wisely and choose.

and remember the looser has to leave the forum.

also read my edit on my original post, it talks about the terms.

S million is a random number I threw out, GT5 could sell less, could sell more, dunno.

I am however not gonna fall for your trap bet.


I'm not

Oh so since it could sell more... or sell less... (DUH!!!) and 5 million is just some "random number," you never had an argument to begin with.  Right?

Wait, was anytone talking to you? No? Did not think so.



Hyruken said:

I will take that bet BHR

Gran Turismo 5 will NOT sell 3m copies first week.

Europe and more importantly UK is Gran Turismo's biggest selling region. Things have changed a lot since ps2 generation. At the time of GT4 releasing there were 7.5m PS2's in UK and it was a game on a console that had no real competition. This time around for GT5 there are just 3m PS3's in UK, a drop of over 50%. Plus there are two other competitors which have both outsold it. In fact even 360 is nearly at sales of 2 to 1 over PS3 there. That will have a huge effect on sales this time around.

Plus Pro-logue was never a full price game. It started at £25 here, nearly half the price of a full titled game. Then in a matter of weeks it was at the £15 mark and below, which it is at today. Plus the game was bundled with most PS3's here for a period, it came with mine. I think they even ran a LBP GT5:p bundle for ages if i remember right.

If you look at UK pre-order sites charts your see it mirrors this chart pretty much.

If you look at those charts GT5 seems to be around the 8-10 mark. With even other racing games ahead of it i.e F1 2010.

This generation is full of games that sold less then their previous game in the last gen i.e GTA4. I expect GT5 will be another one of those games.

This^--- Pretty much 100% agreed with my thoughts.

I think the age of car simulation games selling as well as they did last gen is over. The popularity of the car sim genre, like JRPGs, is still big, but not nearly what it once was. And GT having no competition last gen was a big factor for its success, this generation it has plenty. If anything I think this generation is mainly shooters and WRPGS on the rise. I know GT5 will sell big, but I don't see it even coming close to Reach WW.



ur a puss. First you're going to diss GT5 and say it will barely make 5 mil and now you won't even back up ur statement by betting. WOW



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Reach still insane

BOps amazing too (this should shut up all the people thinking Treiarch games are not true CoD games)



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will also be interesting to come back to see if Black OPS 360 > Reach

because, as we can see, Ops is already outselling MW2 in preorders 



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lilyusi said:

ur a puss. First you're going to diss GT5 and say it will barely make 5 mil and now you won't even back up ur statement by betting. WOW

I swear some of you must be slow, IT WAS A RANDOM NUMBER, I NEVER SAID IT WOULD NOT MAKE IT TO 5 OR 6 MILLION. I was just pointing out that his bet was a trap.



Halo_Reach said:
Jadedx said:

For all the GT people claiming WW sales would be better than reach: The last true GT was outsold by every GTA game,in fact GTA:SA is the best selling game on the ps2, GT4 was the best selling game on ps3 till MW2 came out, what makes you think GT5 is going to outsell GTA or MW2 on the ps3, neither of which has sold 9 million yet?


exactly, i see gt5 selling a respectable 5.8 million units worldwide lifetime unless they permantly bundle it


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Want to put your account where your mouth is?

bet is you get permaban if GT5 sells more than 5.8m LIFE TIME if it doesn't I get permaban?

Well? take it? you talk so much shit lets see if you can back it up.



Awwww so surprising that Halo_Reach is all talk.(rolls eye)