Blu-ray is fighting over a market about to reach the end of its line, even Sony said that the PS4 will likely not have a disc drive, so it won't help it.

Most people never use all the functionality on their Cellular, just like most will not use the PS3 to surf, or to store pictures, or any of that other stuff, and with Blu-ray already a dead tech, there really is no future to media machines like the PS3

"even Sony said that the PS4 will likely not have a disc drive,"

doubt it, how long is it? 4-5 years till the next gen? I seriously doubt that everyone has the technology to download 50->300Gb games without waiting for years.

"and with Blu-ray already a dead tech"

clairvoyant?

Avinash_Tyagi said: Blu-ray is fighting over a market about to reach the end of its line, even Sony said that the PS4 will likely not have a disc drive, so it won't help it. Most people never use all the functionality on their Cellular, just like most will not use the PS3 to surf, or to store pictures, or any of that other stuff, and with Blu-ray already a dead tech, there really is no future to media machines like the PS3

 I wouldent consider Blu-ray or HD-DVD dead by any stretch yet, digital downloads is all fine and dandy don't get me wrong, but not every person in the world even has High speed interenet yet, it's a market that can't be fully tapped yet until internet technology makes huge leaps and bounds. Plus physical media is what sells to the average consumer at brick and mortar stores (Wallmart says hi). And regardless of how many people use the features in phones, they're there SHOULD they want to, and it definately helps sell the phone, if I can get the same phone with a camera for only $20 more am I going to? Damn strait I am :D

Besides, people who do care about the features use them, I know several family's that use the PS3's picture viewer on there big screen tv's for family photo's and what not. Like I said earlier the PS3 is just too much for today's standards, a very small percentage of the people even understand what it's capable of doing, but as technology progresses more and more people will come around to it I'm sure, (HDTV's market is rapidly growing). 

The picture viewer is great. Just put the camera memory stick into it and you have really the best way to watch digital images.
The PS3 really is an awesome media machine, I have a external harddisc with my media files... just plug it in and everything is taken care off (I want divx support now )
The Upnp functionality is also cool for a while I worked with a long VGA cable from my Pc to the TV.
Sony should make a deal with Apple for iTunes support. This would make it fly.

Besides HD player WILL come. The good thing about them is that they can also play DVDs so when they are cheap enough (as disc players normally get) there is really no reason not to buy one. I only would like one of the formats to die now.

Kyros said: The picture viewer is great. Just put the camera memory stick into it and you have really the best way to watch digital images. The PS3 really is an awesome media machine, I have a external harddisc with my media files... just plug it in and everything is taken care off (I want divx support now ) The Upnp functionality is also cool for a while I worked with a long VGA cable from my Pc to the TV. Sony should make a deal with Apple for iTunes support. This would make it fly. Besides HD player WILL come. The good thing about them is that they can also play DVDs so when they are cheap enough (as disc players normally get) there is really no reason not to buy one. I only would like one of the formats to die now.

 I was thinking the exact same thing with iTunes, and yes I agree that the HD age is upon us! I walk into best buy/fry's and I don't see ANY non 720p tv's. With that said it's almost safe to assume that EVERY tv purchased from today forward will be high def compatible. That in itself says alot.

Walmart can say hi all it wants, with Wireless networking making the advance that it is it wont be long til gaming on discs goes the way of the dodo, why do you think things like playstation's online store and virtual console on Wii are being pushed, its the first steps to getting the infrastructure up and running.  Like this I own a Wii 2, I want the new Mario game, either I can acess the store at home, or I can take my removable HD, drive to the local store or download center, tell them about it, and they download it onto my HD for me, saves a lot in costs

You might like that phone, but if another tech comes along that does things better than phone won't be purchased, no matter how many gadgets it has.



Yeah by then other tech will be availible that does better, why have a PS3, when you can download a movie on your laptop and watch on your TV screen for less?

That's the problem with convergence, it becomes obsolete too easily

Too bad for Blu-ray and Sony that most people who buy HDTVs doen't know what HD is and don't really care, in fact most think they have HDTV service when they don't

"Too bad for Blu-ray and Sony that most people who buy HDTVs doen't know what HD is and don't really care,"

Times will change. The more people have HD player the more people will realize their TV could look much better.

Avinash_Tyagi said: I wouldent consider Blu-ray or HD-DVD dead by any stretch yet, digital downloads is all fine and dandy don't get me wrong, but not every person in the world even has High speed interenet yet, it's a market that can't be fully tapped yet until internet technology makes huge leaps and bounds. Plus physical media is what sells to the average consumer at brick and mortar stores (Wallmart says hi). And regardless of how many people use the features in phones, they're there SHOULD they want to, and it definately helps sell the phone, if I can get the same phone with a camera for only $20 more am I going to? Damn strait I am :D Walmart can say hi all it wants, with Wireless networking making the advance that it is it wont be long til gaming on discs goes the way of the dodo, why do you think things like playstation's online store and virtual console on Wii are being pushed, its the first steps to getting the infrastructure up and running. Like this I own a Wii 2, I want the new Mario game, either I can acess the store at home, or I can take my removable HD, drive to the local store or download center, tell them about it, and they download it onto my HD for me, saves a lot in costs You might like that phone, but if another tech comes along that does things better than phone won't be purchased, no matter how many gadgets it has. Besides, people who do care about the features use them, I know several family's that use the PS3's picture viewer on there big screen tv's for family photo's and what not. Like I said earlier the PS3 is just too much for today's standards, a very small percentage of the people even understand what it's capable of doing, but as technology progresses more and more people will come around to it I'm sure, (HDTV's market is rapidly growing). Yeah by then other tech will be availible that does better, why have a PS3, when you can download a movie on your laptop and watch on your TV screen for less? That's the problem with convergence, it becomes obsolete too easily

I agree with most of your points, but your argument has a lot of holes, devices like Laptops and Cellphones have so many features because people just don't want to carry that much when there on the go. A stationary home console that always remains connected to your tv is a definite way to go. Many people LIKE bundled packages, well more precisely tech people like bundled packages :P and as I'm sure you've noticed in recent years our numbers seem to be growing.

The way's of 7 remotes in a household is going down the drain. Many many electronics are simplifying, back in the day's of old it was common to have your tape deck, your vcr, your 5 disk cd changer, your snes, and your cable box all hooked up using separate remotes, fewer and fewer households are keeping with this tradition. Technology is a fickle business as most of the worlds population are oblivious, but once it hooks the fish ends up dragging the boat along for the ride.

Like I said you can't even find standard def TV's in stores anymore, and I'm sure you've heard the word about cable providers going digital signal right? In a few years time the world will be moving on to High Def, do you think our internet will support 50gig movie downloads in minutes by that time?

[EDIT] This is straying kind of off topic lol perhaps we should move it elsewhere?

Also note that many movie theaters are going DLP screens ;) Even more high def glory! 

@ChronoTrigger:"In a few years time the world will be moving on to High Def, do you think our internet will support 50gig movie downloads in minutes by that time?"

Streaming? I think most of our internet will support 50 gig movie downloads in 1-2 hours by that time.

Also, I think it will be more like on Microsoft's Marketplace. Movies and tv shows in both SD and HD with various sizes and fees. You'll have a lot of choices.