Gears of war isnt mega franchise compared to GT or Halo. And its not even MS owned IP. So 1 for Sony and 1 for MS and huge amount for Nintendo.
I could care less about this argument, but one thing I find disturbing is the fact that people actually believe that a game is only as good as its sales, because apparently every game in the cosmos must have mass appeal and be created for everyone under the sun, selling 20 million copies in order to cement itself as a mega franchise which shows the ignorance of many on here. Case in point, valkyria chronicles which is one of the most underrated gems of this generation and not selling anywhere near what it should. There are plenty of factors to blame for this, but the game is pure brilliance which many of you would agree, and by all means should be mega franchise quality but just because the game fails to sell well doesnt mean that its not a good or even great game. Horrible standards, some of you really think a games quality is based on the number of people who purchase it? I thought that maybe the developers had something to do with the quality of the game, not the number of people who decide to purchase it.
The point that people are missing is that the majority of gamers arent core gamers, the ones who can appreciate the depth and difficulty of many games, rather they are casuals who buy into all the fancy cg and artwork tossed around in advertisements in order to sucker them into buying a certain game. Sure this is where the money is made but it in no way shape or form determines the quality of the game, but then again this is the opinion of a core gamer which begs the question of whether or not a game should cater to the casual market more.
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| shanbcn said: Gears of war isnt mega franchise compared to GT or Halo. And its not even MS owned IP. So 1 for Sony and 1 for MS and huge amount for Nintendo. |
This. And don't forget PlayStation consoles have made millions in tons of FIRST-PARTY exclusives. Even if only some of them may exceed 3 million, 4 million, it's a lot better to have MANY 1st-party exclusives selling 1.5 to 2 million each, than NOT having more than a HANDFUL like the 360 does!
Bungie won't be making exclusives anymore. It's only a matter of time when Epic will go FULL multiplat. What's gonna hold up the 360 in the future? what's gonna be their "crazy popular exclusive" for the next console? Sony will have its exclusives, always, they may not all be monster-selling franchises, but altogether make one hell of a team.
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Yes, it's VERY common for that to happen when inaccuracies are used in an attempt to prove a point.
Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
| qmoney88 said: I could care less about this argument, but one thing I find disturbing is the fact that people actually believe that a game is only as good as its sales, because apparently every game in the cosmos must have mass appeal and be created for everyone under the sun, selling 20 million copies in order to cement itself as a mega franchise which shows the ignorance of many on here. Case in point, valkyria chronicles which is one of the most underrated gems of this generation and not selling anywhere near what it should. There are plenty of factors to blame for this, but the game is pure brilliance which many of you would agree, and by all means should be mega franchise quality but just because the game fails to sell well doesnt mean that its not a good or even great game. Horrible standards, some of you really think a games quality is based on the number of people who purchase it? I thought that maybe the developers had something to do with the quality of the game, not the number of people who decide to purchase it. The point that people are missing is that the majority of gamers arent core gamers, the ones who can appreciate the depth and difficulty of many games, rather they are casuals who buy into all the fancy cg and artwork tossed around in advertisements in order to sucker them into buying a certain game. Sure this is where the money is made but it in no way shape or form determines the quality of the game, but then again this is the opinion of a core gamer which begs the question of whether or not a game should cater to the casual market more. |
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Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
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you can't get the rights if the IP'S owner doesn't want to sell it plus they ended up with jak and daxter and uncharted for the price of ND rather then having to pay huge money for one franchise that they had on there platform any way.
Research shows Video games help make you smarter, so why am I an idiot
Sony has the best first party developers which create new ips all the time.
Why doesnt Microsoft do this? Because they buy their exclusives and have almost zero first party devs.
Why doesnt Nintendo do this? Because they have a legacy of Mario and Pokemon and Metroid which they rarely go away from for a new ip.
Halo is Halo, Gears is popular because outside of those 2 games there is really only Fable and Fortza, that IS microsofts first party.
Sony does infact get recognized for Mega franchises. Gran Turismo > Halo world wide
Metal Gear, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Ratchet and Clank > Gears.
You ask why arent there more mega franchise games, I ask why isnt there more diversity in the competition?
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Besides Halo what other MS owned IP sells 10m? right......
Besides GT games what other Sony IP's sells 10m?
Fable 3m
Uncharted 3m
LBP 3m
Resistance 3m
Crackdown 1.5m
Infamous 1.6m
Lost Odessy 800k
Valkyria 900k
Demon soul's 700k
MS IP's sells the same as Sony's IP's quit bitchin.
| qmoney88 said: I could care less about this argument, but one thing I find disturbing is the fact that people actually believe that a game is only as good as its sales, because apparently every game in the cosmos must have mass appeal and be created for everyone under the sun, selling 20 million copies in order to cement itself as a mega franchise which shows the ignorance of many on here. Case in point, valkyria chronicles which is one of the most underrated gems of this generation and not selling anywhere near what it should. There are plenty of factors to blame for this, but the game is pure brilliance which many of you would agree, and by all means should be mega franchise quality but just because the game fails to sell well doesnt mean that its not a good or even great game. Horrible standards, some of you really think a games quality is based on the number of people who purchase it? I thought that maybe the developers had something to do with the quality of the game, not the number of people who decide to purchase it. The point that people are missing is that the majority of gamers arent core gamers, the ones who can appreciate the depth and difficulty of many games, rather they are casuals who buy into all the fancy cg and artwork tossed around in advertisements in order to sucker them into buying a certain game. Sure this is where the money is made but it in no way shape or form determines the quality of the game, but then again this is the opinion of a core gamer which begs the question of whether or not a game should cater to the casual market more. |
That is your opinion yet it is written as fact. It doesn't deserve anything but what it sells
| ultraslick said: Sony has the best first party developers which create new ips all the time. Why doesnt Microsoft do this? Because they buy their exclusives and have almost zero first party devs. Why doesnt Nintendo do this? Because they have a legacy of Mario and Pokemon and Metroid which they rarely go away from for a new ip. Halo is Halo, Gears is popular because outside of those 2 games there is really only Fable and Fortza, that IS microsofts first party. Sony does infact get recognized for Mega franchises. Gran Turismo > Halo world wide Metal Gear, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Ratchet and Clank > Gears. You ask why arent there more mega franchise games, I ask why isnt there more diversity in the competition? |
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