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Scoobes on 30 August 2010
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!

The hassle isn't the argument, it's the principle and the fact that you're already paying yet MS milks you even more, yet you just accept it.

Other services that have subscription models usually give you the benefit of no ads (Spotify, Gamespy etc.) for your money.




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themanwithnoname on 30 August 2010
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!


I would love to hear your defense against the PS3, or even better, the PC.

Also I can;t help but laugh at your sorry defense for advertisment.


I don't give a flying crap about the PS3 or the PC. I will never buy a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. How's that for a defense? And I don't give a flip about ads either, when all I have to do is move the thumbstick, and poof, they're gone.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

vlad321 on 30 August 2010
themanwithnoname said:
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!


I would love to hear your defense against the PS3, or even better, the PC.

Also I can;t help but laugh at your sorry defense for advertisment.


I don't give a flying crap about the PS3 or the PC. I will never buy a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. How's that for a defense? And I don't give a flip about ads either, when all I have to do is move the thumbstick, and poof, they're gone.

My, what a shining example for the model consumer you are. You should honestly become a spokesperson for coroporations. They can only dream that their consumers will be as proud as you are to bend over and be happy about it.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

NJ5 on 30 August 2010
themanwithnoname said:
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!


I would love to hear your defense against the PS3, or even better, the PC.

Also I can;t help but laugh at your sorry defense for advertisment.


I don't give a flying crap about the PS3 or the PC. I will never buy a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. How's that for a defense? And I don't give a flip about ads either, when all I have to do is move the thumbstick, and poof, they're gone.

Apparently you did care about the Wii, but only because you could use a cheap attack against its online system (which btw isn't even true for all games). When it comes to more similar online systems like PS3 or PC, you then don't give a flying crap.

Well at least you're upfront about the fact that your defense against these claims is pretty much nothing.



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CaptDS9E on 30 August 2010
Scoobes said:

I do find it weird that people are actually defending this when PS3, Wii and PC all have the ability to play online for free.

In the case of PC the service it offers is actually better, especially where it counts as nearly all PC games have dedicated servers, mods and services like Steam offer the extra features of Live anyway.


I find it funny when people who don't use the 360 or Live comment on a service they have never used. 



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themanwithnoname on 30 August 2010
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!


I would love to hear your defense against the PS3, or even better, the PC.

Also I can;t help but laugh at your sorry defense for advertisment.


I don't give a flying crap about the PS3 or the PC. I will never buy a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. How's that for a defense? And I don't give a flip about ads either, when all I have to do is move the thumbstick, and poof, they're gone.

My, what a shining example for the model consumer you are. You should honestly become a spokesperson for coroporations.

Anytime. If the PS3 or PC had titles I was interested in that I could only play on either of those platforms, I'd have bought them already. But they don't, and I haven't, so I don't really care what their online is like. That being said, I don't know anybody in real life who has a PS3 or a gaming PC, so I'd miss out on that as well if I did have either of those platforms.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

vlad321 on 30 August 2010
CaptDS9E said:
Scoobes said:

I do find it weird that people are actually defending this when PS3, Wii and PC all have the ability to play online for free.

In the case of PC the service it offers is actually better, especially where it counts as nearly all PC games have dedicated servers, mods and services like Steam offer the extra features of Live anyway.


I find it funny when people who don't use the 360 or Live comment on a service they have never used. 

Up until this summer I used to live in a house with 2 360s both owners with GOLD memberships. I can tell you that they are exactly as stated so far, and my PC could do absolutely everything better than either 360.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

CaptDS9E on 30 August 2010

"I do find it weird that people are actually defending this when PS3, Wii and PC all have the ability to play online for free."

 

I just find it funny that people who don't even use Live comment about it. Or have a 360 for that matter.  This forum sure has a lot of that.



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rakugakist on 30 August 2010

This isn't going to affect anything.  People who don't want to pay for online will continue playing PS3 and PC, whereas 360 and Live fans will gladly fork over the extra dough.  I mean, it's only inflation, right?  People already paying for LIve will continue to do so and MS will make even more money. 



themanwithnoname on 30 August 2010
NJ5 said:
themanwithnoname said:
vlad321 said:
themanwithnoname said:
NJ5 said:

Oh, and if we want to talk about greedy, we should remember that:

- MS does online advertising in Xbox Live, despite the fact that it's a paid service
- People are already paying for the games, which on any other platform entitles you to play online
- Many (almost all?) of the games are actually played by P2P connections, requiring few or zero servers at Microsoft.

If it provides something so I wouldn't have to go through the laughably ridiculous hoops and ladders your sig indicates, then I'm for it all the way. By the way, moving past the two or three ads on the dashboard requires moving the left thumbstick with your thumb. Oh the humanity!


I would love to hear your defense against the PS3, or even better, the PC.

Also I can;t help but laugh at your sorry defense for advertisment.


I don't give a flying crap about the PS3 or the PC. I will never buy a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. How's that for a defense? And I don't give a flip about ads either, when all I have to do is move the thumbstick, and poof, they're gone.

Apparently you did care about the Wii, but only because you could use a cheap attack against its online system (which btw isn't even true for all games). When it comes to more similar online systems like PS3 or PC, you then don't give a flying crap.

Well at least you're upfront about the fact that your defense against these claims is pretty much nothing.

I do care about the Wii. My brother used to have a Wii, and I think the Wii has a lot of cool looking games, and I'd buy a Wii if I had the time or money to get one. I'll probably get Wii 2 or Super Wii or whatever it's called, and I think Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Zelda: Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, Monster Hunter Tri, and Metroid: Other M are awesome looking games. That being said, that does not excuse Nintendo's policy of either acting like online doesn't exist in games like Wii Fit, or just acting as if nobody cares about it at all. That more than hardware difference and motion controls is what annoys me about Nintendo this generation.



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