$12.99 is fine, I actually thought it was going to be a few dollars higher.

Guild Wars is no where close to WoW or any other MMO in terms of upkeep on the developers/network peoples part. I wouldn't even consider it a true MMO.

And how do you know what the expenses of Guild Wars are to ArenaNet? I know the game has much less of a cost per user than WoW and other traditional MMOs, but the Guild Wars franchise has sold over six million copies to date, so that's potentially a lot of users. And even ArenaNet themselves say it's not a MMO, so you're right to not consider it one.

However, Guild Wars should be every bit as demanding as something like WoW, probably more so, and there still is no monthly fee. We'll see how that bill gets covered when the game releases.

It is NOT 8 hours a week. That was a false rumor spread by Sakura Complex.

Your right maybe it has something to do with real money maker. A couple of years ago I had 3 computers running bots on FF11. An EXP limit would have make it way harder for me to level 3 different expert fisherman characters through automated actions.

Actually, it's not. When you get a cell phone, many providers will offer you a free phone with a contract. If you want more features, then you'll have to pay. As for a computer, well... I can do things without the internet on my machine. Things like Civilization 2, Diablo 2, or doing a school paper. I don't need the internet for those.

Subject at hand. I'm in the same boat. I refuse to pay for something, then be told I have to keep paying to be able to keep using it. You want to charge $13/month? Fine, make the software free. You want to charge me $50-75 for the software? Then there better be a way I can play it as much as I want without paying another dime. Otherwise, I see most current MMOs as double-dipping for money, and that's not a practice I want to support.

the price is fair enough, i still pay $10 a month to play ff11:online and have been playing for 5 years now. and i love every minute of it, i usually play around 40hrs a week on ff11:online and i know i will do the same at least for ff14:online as well. all of my friends that are gonna play ff14:online dont care for the monthly fee we all just wana dive into the world and play with the ppl of the world.

So you would pay 65 dollars for 1 new game that lasts maybe 6-12 hours? But not a 13/month game that gives you more content than that game?

For the first case, I'd pay it, IF it was a game that interested me. A hardcore action game I'd pass on; those aren't my type. (And if an RPG is only 6-12 hours, I'm not going to have much interest in it either.) I'd also be more likely to consider paying $13/month for a game that I liked, but as I said in the other post, I would want the software provided for free. If I'm going to pay $50-60 for something, it's not going to be for the priviledge to pay another $13/month to play something I've already paid for.

I think that's a lot.

I have never played a MMO so I wasn'tplanning on getting this one anyway.