the wii sensor bar takes in Infra-red from the the wii mote. from this it calculates where the user is pointing from that the accelerometers and gyroscopes inside the controller. with motion plus it can also determine depth. it needs to be pointed back at the IR bar though to be kept accurate.

the ps eye looks out at the controller rather than have the controller shot a invisible beam at a bar. the ps eye also has quite a lot of cool features like tracking the user, head tracking, age, gender and face recognition. it can track certain points in a users body although without the ps move it is not very accurately. the eye is a camera designed for gaming just like Kinect although not as advanced.

to answer the question in the title the move can do some things like navigate the xmb without the ps eye but it is very limited.

Well that's what I am after. The question is if the camera was mandatory for motion controls to work or if they decided to include a camera just to make it more complex than the Wii mote.

No, it's the same freakin' thing. PS Eye, Eyepet camera, PS3 camera...whatever, any fool should know what you are talking about.

That makes sense but then Kitler a couple of posts above said that the Wii-mote has a camera too.

Sure, you don't call Kinect the "Kinect Adventures camera" either.

Actually "Kinect Adventures camera" would be a more appropriate name, since you can only buy Kinect bundled with Kinect Adventures, while the PS Eye is a standalone product that is only bundled with games like EyePet and Eye of Judgment as well.

So some games will take advantage of the camera's sensing abilities and some don't?

Like that sports game with the bow shooting. That could have been done without a camera basically, had it used an infrared invisible beam like the Wii?

Meanwhile there is that party game where it scans the player onto the screen, and this couldn't have been done on Wii motion controls, correct?

PSEye has been around since the PS3's launch before the Eyepet even released. How do you people think those PSN Camera required games and Eye of judgement worked in 2007?

It's not the "Eyepet Camera". It's the "Playstation Eye". The successor to the Playstation 2's "Eyetoy". Eyepet is just another game that happens to use the PSEye.

As said above, the Wii uses an IR sensor bar which you place on top or infront of your Television. It's not a camera but it is 100% required.

yeah eye pet is a ps3 game so I guess it is easy enough to understand but people bashing it a while back also kept referring to the eyetoy (ps2) which is a lot less advanced than the ps eye (ps3).

To say the wii remote uses a camera is misleading. For example can it take a snapshot or video of my face or room? No.

It uses an optical sensor, which is indeed a camera (sort of) but not in the sense that we think of when we think of what a camera is...or in terms of X360 or PS3 cameras.

Calling it "The Eyepet Camera", is just wrong because it's not built specifically for Eyepet. There were games using it before Eyepet was even announced.