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WarmachineX said:
ultraslick said:

virtually nothing to do with gaming?

What a crock of shit, seriously. We all know the advantages a bluray disc has in gaming.


You must be referring to the higher development costs? or perhaps the added free time you have between loading screens? ;)

BR has no future in gaming, as MS nor Nintendo will never use it in a console.

You can see into the future?   Also they aren't the only 2 companies in gaming right now either.  



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PizzaFaceGamer said:
Vetteman94 said:

Its just another Blu-ray is doomed DD is probably going to take over despite Blu-ray outpacing DD.  Also if it was as well a researched as you claim they wouldnt have said the 20GB PS3 did not come with an HDMI output which is wrong.  All PS3s have come with them. 


Not true at all. This says nothing about blu-ray being doomed, it says it MASSIVELY UNDERPERFORMED, which I think we can all agree on.

Even last year kaz said blu-ray revenue would be 50%, but it still sits today at only around 15%, despite HUGE discounts on discs and players. You can get  a blu-ray player from walmart for 80 bucks!

Price isn't the issue, blu-ray just isn't that popular

Also for the Top 20 sellers Blu-ray has been pulling around 25-30% per week, with most weeks not even having a Blu-ray counterpart for all of the DVD releases.  



http://www.homemediamagazine.com/  11% marketshare (total revenue - not just "top 20") after 4 years on the market. And I have yet to see a pc game on Blu-Ray.



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WarmachineX said:
ultraslick said:

virtually nothing to do with gaming?

What a crock of shit, seriously. We all know the advantages a bluray disc has in gaming.


You must be referring to the higher development costs? or perhaps the added free time you have between loading screens? ;)

BR has no future in gaming, as MS nor Nintendo will never use it in a console.


higher development cost have nothing to do with blu ray, rather than cell was new tech at the time, and not many developers had the resources and engines to work on it, also the development mancraft it's needed to make a decent HD game. still immense some needed 200 people working at the same time.

ps3 games dont tend to have load screens now, games like kz2, god of war 3, uncharted 2,ff13 don't have any that the start one.  it was a tech problem, rather developer inexperience.

also its likely microsoft or nintendo try to avoid paying license like nintendo did with the Wii, using panasonic DVD-like dics, but not because blu ray isnt bad tech, its now cheaper to implement and u wont see better media in a while and there is likely going to be more expensive than blu ray.

 



For what its worth, I don't believe Sony has yet profited directly from Blu Ray with their Blu Ray fabrications. From what I hear they have too much capacity and not enough utilization at present and their fabs have thus far lost them money.

Thats what I read from www.beyond3d.com, you can take it or leave it.



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PizzaFaceGamer said: In the process, the PS2 had become a key factor in the success of optical-DVD (digital-video-disc) media, by virtue of its DVD-playback capabilities and content-subsidized price tag.

It's just funny that you try to post (made up) facts, but one of the easiest parts is totally wrong ...

DVD = Digital Versatile Disc.

Good luck next time.



Does anyone remember when DVDs started taking over the home movie format from videocassettes? Wikipedia is reporting that DVDs were first created in 1995. I first started noticing mass produced DVDs from 1999 on.

Blu ray was created in 2006, it is 2010 and a poster before me noted that,

"http://www.homemediamagazine.com/  11% marketshare (total revenue - not just "top 20") after 4 years on the market. And I have yet to see a pc game on Blu-Ray."

-mitlar37

Have we reached the mass crossover appeal from the higher end home video market to the mass home video market for blu ray? If not, then why not? If so, then why does my brand new 2010 gaming laptop come with a DVD-RW player?

It has been 4 years. I would be stunned if the cost of production for blu ray movies is not equal nor less than DVDs at this point.



Killiana1a said:

Does anyone remember when DVDs started taking over the home movie format from videocassettes? Wikipedia is reporting that DVDs were first created in 1995. I first started noticing mass produced DVDs from 1999 on.

Blu ray was created in 2006, it is 2010 and a poster before me noted that,

"http://www.homemediamagazine.com/  11% marketshare (total revenue - not just "top 20") after 4 years on the market. And I have yet to see a pc game on Blu-Ray."

-mitlar37

Have we reached the mass crossover appeal from the higher end home video market to the mass home video market for blu ray? If not, then why not? If so, then why does my brand new 2010 gaming laptop come with a DVD-RW player?

It has been 4 years. I would be stunned if the cost of production for blu ray movies is not equal nor less than DVDs at this point.


I cannot link but believe the original cost of BluRay Disc fab was approx 8 bucks per disk at launch.

The comparable DVD fab was approx 40 cents per disc.

I'm sure costs have fallen but you cannot seriously expect production to be cheaper than a DVD.



kowhoho said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:
Vetteman94 said:

Its just another Blu-ray is doomed DD is probably going to take over despite Blu-ray outpacing DD.  Also if it was as well a researched as you claim they wouldnt have said the 20GB PS3 did not come with an HDMI output which is wrong.  All PS3s have come with them. 


Not true at all. This says nothing about blu-ray being doomed, it says it MASSIVELY UNDERPERFORMED, which I think we can all agree on.

Even last year kaz said blu-ray revenue would be 50%, but it still sits today at only around 15%, despite HUGE discounts on discs and players. You can get  a blu-ray player from walmart for 80 bucks!

Price isn't the issue, blu-ray just isn't that popular

I made your post stick out even more! Cuz you know, saying things loudly and with authority pretty much makes them the truth.

Hitler once said that if you tell a lie loud enough and long enough it eventually becomes true.

 DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE LIKE HITLER?!?!?!?!?!?!



Oh the Irony.....

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. ...truth is the mortal enemy of the lie."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Germany Propaganda Minister



WarmachineX said:
ultraslick said:

virtually nothing to do with gaming?

What a crock of shit, seriously. We all know the advantages a bluray disc has in gaming.


You must be referring to the higher development costs? or perhaps the added free time you have between loading screens? ;)

BR has no future in gaming, as MS nor Nintendo will never use it in a console.

Then theyll have to find some other kind of high density media to distribute games on. Will it be better than blu rays? Anyway, the future of something is not solely limit by the numbers of companies using it.