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zarx on 24 August 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I think games like LIMBO, borderlands, TWEWY etc all look better than Gran Turismo 5's boring old realism any day.

Oh wait maybe by looking better you meant technically better (as in developers added effects and pushes newer better tech), well in that case you are just plain wrong sorry. 



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Chrizum on 24 August 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I respect your opinion. I think Muramasa on Wii looks better than any PC game ever released. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. Technically, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are miles behind PC games, even when you don't count Crysis. There were tons of games that were technically more advanced than Gears of War in 2006.

Hell, Oblivion on PC looked about 10 times better than Oblivion on consoles. With some good mods enabled, it trounces each and every console game so far released.



--OkeyDokey-- on 24 August 2010
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I respect your opinion. I think Muramasa on Wii looks better than any PC game ever released. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. Technically, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are miles behind PC games, even when you don't count Crysis. There were tons of games that were technically more advanced than Gears of War in 2006.

Hell, Oblivion on PC looked about 10 times better than Oblivion on consoles. With some good mods enabled, it trounces each and every console game so far released.

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|



Chrizum on 24 August 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I respect your opinion. I think Muramasa on Wii looks better than any PC game ever released. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. Technically, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are miles behind PC games, even when you don't count Crysis. There were tons of games that were technically more advanced than Gears of War in 2006.

Hell, Oblivion on PC looked about 10 times better than Oblivion on consoles. With some good mods enabled, it trounces each and every console game so far released.

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|

Here is a pretty good YouTube vid of Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B73BZCweQM0&hd=1 However it does look better on my PC in fullscreen, and I don't even have a very powerful PC.

Supreme Commander maxed out looks amazing and could never be done on consoles.



--OkeyDokey-- on 24 August 2010
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I respect your opinion. I think Muramasa on Wii looks better than any PC game ever released. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. Technically, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are miles behind PC games, even when you don't count Crysis. There were tons of games that were technically more advanced than Gears of War in 2006.

Hell, Oblivion on PC looked about 10 times better than Oblivion on consoles. With some good mods enabled, it trounces each and every console game so far released.

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|

Here is a pretty good YouTube vid of Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B73BZCweQM0&hd=1 However it does look better on my PC in fullscreen, and I don't even have a very powerful PC.

Supreme Commander maxed out looks amazing and could never be done on consoles.

Right. I can appreciate the draw distance and sheer amount of textures and objects on screen but it's nowhere near "trouncing" what the PS3 is capable of in the hands of extremely talented and smart programmers with a ginormous budget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Gu-VJedLA

The way you're talking is as if games like God of War III look dated and technically unimpressive compared to 4 year old PC games, and that is just a damn lie. That video demonstrates a massive technical achievement even by PC standards.



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huaxiong90 on 24 August 2010
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
 

I remember those demoes, they looked similar.  One thing I did remember though was that the urban areas looked better on the 360 than on the PS3.  But the forested areas looked better on the PS3.  But who knows for now.  We'll just have to wait and see.

I have to disagree, the urban areas seemed to have  more detail , better lighting ect in the PS3 demo.

I can't find the comparison images, but there was an image out there that took an indoor scene between the two consoles.  The lighting wasn't as good in the PS3 version, like I think lights were missing or glitches with the lighting I can't recall.

Around the 50 second mark is where they do a comparison and you'll notice the PS3 version looks a bit better.

The PS3 version looks noticeably better around the 1:24 mark, and the environment also seems better on the PS3 version in the 0:50 mark. But the lighting around the 0:50 mark looks more realistic on the 360 version, if I'm going to be honest. The PS3 version looks too bright and seems to have sharp edges (the light in the middle, that is). Maybe it's been fixed now, though.



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Chrizum on 24 August 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Chrizum said:
serav said:
Chrizum said:

And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago.


killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.

they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op

It was released 1 year ago, and no of course it wasn't done 4 years ago, otherwise they'd have released it 4 years ago. Games on PC in 2006 looked better than games releasing now for the PS3 and 360. Nothing wrong with that, I think even many Wii games look great today (hell, I prefer some 16-bit games to recent games visually).

It's just sad when  you see PS3 and 360 fanboys arguing over which game is the "graphics king" when it's all been done before ages ago on PC.

Um, how about no? Gears of War looked better than everything on PC when it released in late 2006 and it took the original Crysis to top it. And Uncharted 2, God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 look as good as any non-Crysis game out there to this day.

K?

I respect your opinion. I think Muramasa on Wii looks better than any PC game ever released. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. Technically, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are miles behind PC games, even when you don't count Crysis. There were tons of games that were technically more advanced than Gears of War in 2006.

Hell, Oblivion on PC looked about 10 times better than Oblivion on consoles. With some good mods enabled, it trounces each and every console game so far released.

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|

Here is a pretty good YouTube vid of Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B73BZCweQM0&hd=1 However it does look better on my PC in fullscreen, and I don't even have a very powerful PC.

Supreme Commander maxed out looks amazing and could never be done on consoles.

Right. I can appreciate the draw distance and sheer amount of textures and objects on screen but it's nowhere near "trouncing" what the PS3 is capable of in the hands of extremely talented and smart programmers with a ginormous budget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Gu-VJedLA

The way you're talking is as if games like God of War III look dated and technically unimpressive compared to 4 year old PC games, and that is just a damn lie. That video demonstrates a massive technical achievement even by PC standards.

The God of War video is amazing, but mostly because of smart programming, not so much because of horsepower. PS3 is not as powerful as a high-end PC in 2007 and that is a fact.



Slimebeast on 24 August 2010
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|

Here is a pretty good YouTube vid of Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B73BZCweQM0&hd=1 However it does look better on my PC in fullscreen, and I don't even have a very powerful PC.

Oblivion looks just like that on my Xbox 360.

Also I have a very powerful PC but I hardly notice the difference between the versions. The only noticebale difference is the 1920x1200 res compared to 1280x720 on the X360.

And Uncharted 2 eats everything on PC except for maybe Crisis. Personally I'm more impressed by the graphix of Uncharted 2 and GT5 than Crisis.



Chrizum on 24 August 2010
Slimebeast said:
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

Can you please NAME the games you're referring to? I know what PC's are cabaple of, but no one other Crytek is demonstrating it as far as I can see. And I would love you to show me a video in which Oblivion on PC trounces each and every console game so far released :|

Here is a pretty good YouTube vid of Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B73BZCweQM0&hd=1 However it does look better on my PC in fullscreen, and I don't even have a very powerful PC.

Oblivion looks just like that on my Xbox 360.

Also I have a very powerful PC but I hardly notice the difference between the versions. The only noticebale difference is the 1920x1200 res compared to 1280x720 on the X360.

And Uncharted 2 eats everything on PC except for maybe Crisis. Personally I'm more impressed by the graphix of Uncharted 2 and GT5 than Crisis.

That only means you haven't installed any mods for Oblivion. But even stock maxed out, Oblivion on PC trounces the 360 version when it comes to draw distance, textures, pop-up, etc.



--OkeyDokey-- on 24 August 2010
Chrizum said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

Right. I can appreciate the draw distance and sheer amount of textures and objects on screen but it's nowhere near "trouncing" what the PS3 is capable of in the hands of extremely talented and smart programmers with a ginormous budget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Gu-VJedLA

The way you're talking is as if games like God of War III look dated and technically unimpressive compared to 4 year old PC games, and that is just a damn lie. That video demonstrates a massive technical achievement even by PC standards.

The God of War video is amazing, but mostly because of smart programming, not so much because of horsepower. PS3 is not as powerful as a high-end PC in 2007 and that is a fact.

"only hardcore 360 and PS3 fans think their games look amazing"

Changed your tune, have you? :P I rest my case. The PS3 holds its own.