| Chrizum said: And we didn't know that? Only hardcore 360 and PS3 fanboys think their games look amazing. Gears of War 2? Uncharted 2? Don't look that impressive at all. Killzone 2 could be done on PCs 4 years ago. |
killzone 2 was done 4 years ago, released 2 years ago.
they even keep the same graphics and add 3d , and from the rumors maybe co op
axumblade said:
I don't think they normally demo all versions of a game at these conventions. Generally it's one system or the other. |
Actually when Crytech first showed off Crysis they showed it running on all 3 platforms to show how they're identical and you can make one version and it'll cross compile for you. I havn't heard anything of the PS3 version being shown off in a while, and now hearing the 360 version is lagging behind, I wouldn't be surprised if they are further behind on the PS3 version (Or could possibly ahead and they don't want people to realize it looks better than the 360 version... though unlikely)
CGI-Quality said:
Of course, to elitist PC fans, console games won't look "impressive at all". I say that because not all PC fans behave that way. But on the flipside, those console games took dedication, talent, and horsepower. One man's rags is another man's riches. |
Not so fast! A lot of those elitist fans are able to appeciate talent, artistry and excellent production values, more so that anyone who has ever uttered the words 'Powah of teh Cell' with any hint of seriousness. They only appear to be elitist because they have to shoot down many of the latter comments which doesn't give them any chance to espouse the true form excellence has taken in many of the console games, especially PS3 exclusives.
Tease.
| disolitude said: Phew...and I thought the PC version may be based and optimized on the poor console versions. Thank god... |
This.
I cannot play these games on consoles anyway. Glad to have something to stress out the good ol' 470s!
CGI-Quality said:
Doesn't nullify my point. A. obviously, a console isn't anywhere near the power of a PC... B. console fans don't need to be reminded of this fact all the time. I, myself, am a former PC-only fan and can appreciate a current PC fan's outlook. I don't, however, find it OK to claim that console games "aren't impressive" because the PC has games that look better. That's the time when a big, fat "SO FUCKIN' WHAT" is applied. In fact, it can be applied when PS3 fans throw their exclusives in the faces of Wii/360 fans as well. |
Truer words have never been spoken!!
Does the article actually compare the game to other console games, or just the PC counterpart?
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
| ZenfoldorVGI said: So just to clarify this, and correct me if I'm wrong: This is a PC website, comparing the game to PC quality graphics, and attempting to drive home the point that all console games look shitty compared to PC. Nowhere is it mentioned how the game stacks up to current console games. Next, this is probably the same goddamn video we were all "ohh"ing and "ahh"ing about 2 goddamn days ago when it first game out and all we could talk about was how good it looked. And now....and now...calm down...and now, we take this as evidence and implication that the graphics in Crysis 2 are bad compared to other console games, on nothing but the vague and unsubstantiated claims which don't even vaguely imply anything about comparisons to other console games. Each of us have the ability to reason.
Wanna hear some stupid shit? Last generation, the same playstation fanboys existed. Not the general idea of them, but the exact same people. These people then, argued that graphics didn't matter, just the games mattered. At the beginning of this generation, these exact same playstation fanboys, when presented with ugly ports said, "graphics don't matter, we get to play the game, who cares if we have a few less polygons." What have they become if not hipocritical? Playstation 3 fanboys are now WORSE graphics whores than the elistist PC fanboys. Thing is, if the PS4 had the shittiest graphics next gen, they would champion the console just as much. I see that as more of a commentary on fanboyism as it relates to purchasing decisions, and post purchase justification, rather than a commentary on graphic whoring. This gen is almost over. What happens when graphics reach diminishing returns, and it is impossible to distinguish between high end graphics on any available machine? Afterall, Consoles don't need to render anything over 1080p, and the PC is already to the point where developers are adding super high resolutions without pushing graphics cards, because they don't have the money to program the game to look good enough to push the gpu at 1080p. Graphics are graphics, and they are as unimportant as they ever were. Games are what matters, and playstation fans knew that last generation, but I pick on the Playstation guys too much. I think it's because there are a lot of outspoken ones, and I can't help it. However, you must admit there is a huge hipocritical blunder here. How many of you Playstation 3 fanboys were Xbox fanboys last gen, because of graphics? None of you right? You are just playing the cards you are delt. |
The PS3 game library is very good and compare to their competitors without talking about graphics.
<table style="width: 90%;" border="0"><tr><td><strong>Icyedge said:</strong><br /><table style="width: 90%;" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td><strong>ZenfoldorVGI said:</strong><br> <p>So just to clarify this, and correct me if I'm wrong:</p> <p>This is a PC website, comparing the game to PC quality graphics, and attempting to drive home the point that all console games look shitty compared to PC. Nowhere is it mentioned how the game stacks up to current console games.</p> <p>Next, this is probably the same goddamn video we were all "ohh"ing and "ahh"ing about 2 goddamn days ago when it first game out and all we could talk about was how good it looked.</p> <p>And now....and now...calm down...and now, we take this as evidence and implication that the graphics in Crysis 2 are bad compared to other console games, on nothing but the vague and unsubstantiated claims which don't even vaguely imply anything about comparisons to other console games.</p> <p>Each of us have the ability to reason.</p> <p> </p> <p>Wanna hear some stupid shit? Last generation, the same playstation fanboys existed. Not the general idea of them, but the exact same people. These people then, argued that graphics didn't matter, just the games mattered. At the beginning of this generation, these exact same playstation fanboys, when presented with ugly ports said, "graphics don't matter, we get to play the game, who cares if we have a few less polygons." What have they become if not hipocritical? Playstation 3 fanboys are now WORSE graphics whores than the elistist PC fanboys.</p> <p>Thing is, if the PS4 had the shittiest graphics next gen, they would champion the console just as much. I see that as more of a commentary on fanboyism as it relates to purchasing decisions, and post purchase justification, rather than a commentary on graphic whoring.</p> <p>This gen is almost over. What happens when graphics reach diminishing returns, and it is impossible to distinguish between high end graphics on any available machine? Afterall, Consoles don't need to render anything over 1080p, and the PC is already to the point where developers are adding super high resolutions without pushing graphics cards, because they don't have the money to program the game to look good enough to push the gpu at 1080p.</p> <p>Graphics are graphics, and they are as unimportant as they ever were. Games are what matters, and playstation fans knew that last generation, but I pick on the Playstation guys too much. I think it's because there are a lot of outspoken ones, and I can't help it. However, you must admit there is a huge hipocritical blunder here. How many of you Playstation 3 fanboys were Xbox fanboys last gen, because of graphics? None of you right? You are just playing the cards you are delt.</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p>The PS3 game library is very good and compare to their competitors without talking about graphics.<br><br></p></td></tr></table><br /><br />
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Goddamn 3.0, you briney bastard!!!! Should I even bother to fix this post? Damnit.
Anyway, to guy who quoted my phantom post, what you wrote has nothing at all to do with anything I wrote, and I am unsure as to what exactly you are talking about. I never implied anything negative about the PS3's library, and fyi, I deleted that post earlier, I have no idea how you managed to see it. I don't blame you though. 3.0 and all, or wtf ever this godforsaken version is, garrrr!!!!
So if you care to explain further, I'm all ears, but as of now, I'm not sure what's going on bro.
That said, you are absolutely right, the PS3 does have an amazing library. The fact that we can't go 2 posts in a row without that being mentioned is a testament to the ratio of PS3 fans this forum hosts.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
CGI-Quality said:
Doesn't nullify my point. A. obviously, a console isn't anywhere near the power of a PC... B. console fans don't need to be reminded of this fact all the time. I, myself, am a former PC-only fan and can appreciate a current PC fan's outlook. I don't, however, find it OK to claim that console games "aren't impressive" because the PC has games that look better. That's the time when a big, fat "SO FUCKIN' WHAT" is applied. In fact, it can be applied when PS3 fans throw their exclusives in the faces of Wii/360 fans as well. |
A. Some people seem to forget that.
B. They do need to be reminded, all of the time. Almost all of the talk about console games seems to take a psudo technical angle when talking about visuals when what really needs to be praised is artistry and talent. Answer me this, who got more praise for Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2? Was it the PS3 or was it the teams whom made the game? I'll be surprised if you say the latter. It all depends on the context, if people use the wrong one then does it surprise you when they are corrected?
Tease.
CGI-Quality said:
Doesn't matter who praised Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2, unless you have an inferiority complex. And if we get real technical, the industry itself hyped Uncharted 2's & Killzone 2's visuals as "the best on CONSOLES", right along with the 'fanboys' you seem so quick to call out. And saying: "PC games look better than console games" well no shit, who argued that they didn't? But in many graphics discussions, PC fans feel obligated to "trash the consoles", which can be down right annoying. Regardless, no matter who's doing it, it remains an elitist way of thinking, which you seem to support. |
This whole argument revolves around people saying "Wow! look at those AMAZING grafix!!1!!" in reference to a console game, and PC devotees swining in and saying "Those graphics are shit compared to PC". When EVERYONE, including the PC fan, knows very well that the first comment omitted the "for a console game" qualifier, but the person making the comment simply takes it as read that EVERYONE knows they are limiting the the context of their comment to the console graphics sphere. And the PC fan is merely being churlish by throwing out the whole PC gfx >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Console gfx thing.
I can count on one hand the number of times someone foolishly tried to favourably compare console graphcs to PC graphics, and every time that person was put in their proper place by everyone no matter what their gaming platform preferences.
A site like this is itself being churlish in doing this comparison. Though perhaps Crytek invited this sort of churlishness by suggesting they could extract similar visual performances between PC and console, without compromising on PC visual quality.
Besides Squilly-poo, who are you to question teh powah of teh C3ll?
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