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Xbbjf9s on 19 August 2010
Netyaroze said:
Xbbjf9s said:
greenmedic88 said:

In a word: no.

Sure they could write a firmware update that blocks out the USB ports. They could write a firmware that blocks out the HDMI port, or the multi-out port for that matter, making the console for all intents and purposes, useless.

There's no point to either which would effectively cripple the hardware.

There are simpler ways of preventing an external hardware hack based upon an understanding of how a given hack works. To continue to use the hack will essentially boil down to having to use the current firmware on the PS3 and never connecting the console to PSN again, which is crippling enough itself.

Will people do this? Sure. Buy another PS3. Would it have a major effect on PS3 game sales? It all depends on quickly the issue is dealt with.

so your saying an update would fix this easily? Would you mind explaining to me how this piracy crap happens, i'm still lost on how disc based games are being converted into digital copies.


After all what I read its not as easy to solve for Sony as it seems. This USB dongle is actually something special i cant remember a case where the hacking route was like this. They activate the debug mode in the retail PS3 and are then able to run unsigned code. That means they can run their own stuff on the PS3.

the people in the psx-scene forum said that its not an exploit but its comparable to a Pandora Battery for PSP. And Sony hasnt found a solution for those batterys.

there is a rumor that those USB sticks are the same which Sony uses themselfs and someone stole it. Actually this is INTENDED by Sony. Its just not intended that someone else gets its hands on it. If thats true then this would be the first time something like that happened.

To the bolded:

 

Disc based games are digital. Games on Disc are the same like a game on a harddrive the same row of 0 and 1s. (if thats what you were aiming at) 

 

thanks!



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ShadowSnake on 19 August 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:

can't really do that. for example if i wanna backup a specific game's save file, i use a usb. if i dun have an internet connection and need to update. i do it on computer and transfer it. there's quite a bit of things the usb port is needed for.

all the things you listed can be done via psp. The usb would be cut off for non ps3 related items

wow. i really did not know you can do that via psp, that's pretty good. anyway that still causes the problem for those who do not have a psp though.



Xbbjf9s on 19 August 2010
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:

can't really do that. for example if i wanna backup a specific game's save file, i use a usb. if i dun have an internet connection and need to update. i do it on computer and transfer it. there's quite a bit of things the usb port is needed for.

all the things you listed can be done via psp. The usb would be cut off for non ps3 related items

wow. i really did not know you can do that via psp, that's pretty good. anyway that still causes the problem for those who do not have a psp though.

Yeah it would, the odd thing is certain games can't be backed up...I lost all my KZ2 data when I upgraded to the new ps3.



ShadowSnake on 19 August 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:

can't really do that. for example if i wanna backup a specific game's save file, i use a usb. if i dun have an internet connection and need to update. i do it on computer and transfer it. there's quite a bit of things the usb port is needed for.

all the things you listed can be done via psp. The usb would be cut off for non ps3 related items

wow. i really did not know you can do that via psp, that's pretty good. anyway that still causes the problem for those who do not have a psp though.

Yeah it would, the odd thing is certain games can't be backed up...I lost all my KZ2 data when I upgraded to the new ps3.

ya that's a real b*tch lol. Why are some games locked for? I don't understand that.



Xbbjf9s on 19 August 2010
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:

can't really do that. for example if i wanna backup a specific game's save file, i use a usb. if i dun have an internet connection and need to update. i do it on computer and transfer it. there's quite a bit of things the usb port is needed for.

all the things you listed can be done via psp. The usb would be cut off for non ps3 related items

wow. i really did not know you can do that via psp, that's pretty good. anyway that still causes the problem for those who do not have a psp though.

Yeah it would, the odd thing is certain games can't be backed up...I lost all my KZ2 data when I upgraded to the new ps3.

ya that's a real b*tch lol. Why are some games locked for? I don't understand that.

copyrights maybe? I wasn't putting it on my psp though, i used a flash drive..that may have been why but who knows. I hope they fix this without going this route, i like the fact that my ps3 can connect to anything.



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ShadowSnake on 19 August 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ShadowSnake said:

can't really do that. for example if i wanna backup a specific game's save file, i use a usb. if i dun have an internet connection and need to update. i do it on computer and transfer it. there's quite a bit of things the usb port is needed for.

all the things you listed can be done via psp. The usb would be cut off for non ps3 related items

wow. i really did not know you can do that via psp, that's pretty good. anyway that still causes the problem for those who do not have a psp though.

Yeah it would, the odd thing is certain games can't be backed up...I lost all my KZ2 data when I upgraded to the new ps3.

ya that's a real b*tch lol. Why are some games locked for? I don't understand that.

copyrights maybe? I wasn't putting it on my psp though, i used a flash drive..that may have been why but who knows. I hope they fix this without going this route, i like the fact that my ps3 can connect to anything.


from what i understand (unless things have changed or been fixed) you can only trasnfer locked files when you do a full backup of your system. But you can only transfer the locked files if you're upgrading the HDD for the very same ps3. Locked files are locked to the specific console so buying a new ps3 means saying bye bye to those precious locked games. If I'm not mistaken.



dunno001 on 19 August 2010

Can they? Yes. Will they? Not entirely. I'd actually not be surprised if they require some sort of data check, or even require the external device be in FAT32, with its 4 GB file limitation. It would allow them to keep all the features of photos, music, movies, etc, and block out large images like a BR ISO. They also may allow the system itself to back up larger things, encrypting a code unique to the system to play the back up, be it a DVD, BR movie, or PS3 game. But doing that lets files into the wild that would show the encryption and key access, so I don't see that happening...



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greenmedic88 on 20 August 2010
dunno001 said:

Can they? Yes. Will they? Not entirely. I'd actually not be surprised if they require some sort of data check, or even require the external device be in FAT32, with its 4 GB file limitation. It would allow them to keep all the features of photos, music, movies, etc, and block out large images like a BR ISO. They also may allow the system itself to back up larger things, encrypting a code unique to the system to play the back up, be it a DVD, BR movie, or PS3 game. But doing that lets files into the wild that would show the encryption and key access, so I don't see that happening...

This is actually not too far fetched.

If you look at the current set up the Xbox has for USB flash drives, you have to format the drive to a proprietary Xbox format. The files (I use mine to store videos from Zune) written to the formatted drive are basically encripted. Since I only have one Xbox, I couldn't say whether you can just pull and plug the drive into any console and expect it to play, but it wouldn't suprise me if not.

Plus aren't external USB drives connected to the PS3 already required to be FAT32 format? The only USB drives I've used that weren't recognized weren't FAT32.

It's not out of the question to simply require any drive being accessed by the PS3 (external) to be reformatted to a proprietary (encripted) PS3 format in order to be accessible, although that would put an end to directly connecting external drives with a large amount of open format media on them. Options would then be either set up a media server connection (which many heavy media users do anyway) or just reformat an external HDD for use solely with the PS3 (loss of mobility from system to system).



serav on 20 August 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
serav said:

microsoft did it with third party memories.


how does that even compare with this??????


any companies can disable third party software from working



MARCUSDJACKSON on 20 August 2010

i'm sure it's possible. maybe next gen they'll think about doing. if they did it would only read cellphones controlers and PSP'S.



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