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Xbox 360 is huge because of Hardcore games, and if MS doesn't make more first party studios then they will be in trouble next gen.



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Jadedx said:

This whole topic is ridiculous, and I notice that the only people who agree with this silly argument are the people with Sony Avys and Sigs.


no its not, and most of those people witht he sony avys and sigs have a 360. what people are saying is that ms needs more 1st party studios which is true. yes they have fable gears and halo but you cant milk a franchise for 3 generations. i honestly dont know what more they can do with halo. if they do its going to become a cod and soon were going to be fighting mutent teddy bears. 

with ms launching kinect, and with some of its 1st party studios making kinect games their resources for making hardcore new ips will be cut in half.

the op is ofcourse exagerating but wev seen with mass effect next with left 4 dead their are no such things as 3rd party exclusives. hence ms need more 1st party studios.



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MakeAmazing said:
Slimebeast said:

The X360 is the standard console in this generation. The majority of hardcore console gamers play on Xbox.

We will end this generation and start the next when nearly 70 million X360s have been shipped worldwide. Until then we only need to acquire a couple of good game studios to complete the exclusive lineup.

Xbox 3 is going to be huge.

Seriously...lol. Slime you need to not use sweeping generalisations or be careful in how you word things. Xbox isnt the standard console in this generation. Standard would means something like the one thats sold the most on average (at the very least).

I am the definition of sweeping generalisations.



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MARCUSDJACKSON said:

epic has already said they see more that can be done in the cover based shooter genre so i can see future work from them being done on gears. it's cash cow, but that wasn't enough for bungie!

but yea i agree with everything you said


Thank you my friend :)



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zgamer5 said:
Jadedx said:

This whole topic is ridiculous, and I notice that the only people who agree with this silly argument are the people with Sony Avys and Sigs.


no its not, and most of those people witht he sony avys and sigs have a 360. what people are saying is that ms needs more 1st party studios which is true. yes they have fable gears and halo but you cant milk a franchise for 3 generations. i honestly dont know what more they can do with halo. if they do its going to become a cod and soon were going to be fighting mutent teddy bears. 

with ms launching kinect, and with some of its 1st party studios making kinect games their resources for making hardcore new ips will be cut in half.

the op is ofcourse exagerating but wev seen with mass effect next with left 4 dead their are no such things as 3rd party exclusives. hence ms need more 1st party studios.

Re-think what you just said, now that you have here is your answer.  Yes you certainly can milk a franchise for even longer than that.  Nintendo and Sony both do it, but I see what you mean there is a major difference here.  Microsoft can't do it because most here don't like them.

Sony has milked a lot of its franchises, just off the top of my head here are a few that will be on PS4 almost for certain.

GT, Ratchet and Clank, God of War, Socom, and I am certain I could go on.

Nintendo has even more, do I even need to list them? Lets just do a couple of the main ones just for fun.  Zelda, Mario, Pokemon?

 

I am certainly not knocking either of these companies for doing sequals to our beloved franchises.  And neither should you.  I happen to love a lot of those games.  So why can't Microsoft have a few too?



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SpartenOmega117 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
Boutros said:

They still have Lionhead Studios and Turn 10.


oh yeah i forgot about those. SO forza 5, fable 4, and halo 4? Is that enough?


Why do you assume they won't come out with more core IPs this or next gen?

Sony for example didn't have the Uncharted, Resistence, and Motorstorm IPs until this gen.

In time we'll see new core games from MS.


well jumping from xbox to xbox 360 microsoft really only had 1 new game which was gears. Also mass effect if you call it an exclusive. I think Microsoft will continue to use their established franchises.

crackdown, viva pinata, Kameo, too human, alan wake, lips, lost odyssey, etc.  Microsoft has done pretty well about establishing new IP's this gen, some have taken off better than others, but the same could be said about Sony's new IP's as well.  I'm sure Microsoft will cultivate new IP's again with the next gen, but will also have even more core IP's that they could carry over if they wanted to.  I would expect to at least see another viva pinata, lips, and hopefully some more crackdown, Alan Wake, and Lost Odyssey.  



I'm fairly sure MS will be more successful next generation, than this one. They have really built up their brand next generation, and they can hit the ground running. Especially if they get a headstart again. They might even take away a few fans from the other guys, you never know. :P Microsoft is gonna have great games and a great library on any console they support, they have shown that this gen, so yeah. Xbox live players are gonna stay, and American core gamers are pretty much enthralled with the brand at this point, to an extent where the PS3 is relatively obscure. You do well in America and you'll be fine. Its a very influential market as developers go. Very healthy, sells a lot of software. Devs fall over themselves to get a chance to appeal here, and the Xbox is the platform to do it on. See the westernization and porting of the Final Fantasy series, as one example, and the success of Call of Duty/Halo as another. Shooters sell like hotcakes on the Xbox, and so does any software in general that would have an impact on core gamers decisions, so again, the brand is there, the games will come.



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It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Garnett said:

Xbox 360 is huge because of Hardcore games, and if MS doesn't make more first party studios then they will be in trouble next gen.


They didn't really need any this gen, did they? Lol, nope. They are still in second place, and increasing marketshare atm.

Can't they just outsource exclusives like they did this generation? Seems like this gen was far better for MS than anyone ever expected.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
Garnett said:

Xbox 360 is huge because of Hardcore games, and if MS doesn't make more first party studios then they will be in trouble next gen.


They didn't really need any this gen, did they? Lol, nope. They are still in second place, and increasing marketshare atm.

Can't they just outsource exclusives like they did this generation? Seems like this gen was far better for MS than anyone ever expected.

They do need exclusives, without games like Gears of war then 360 would be another Playstation. That and Xbox live.