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Rubang B said:
The top 3 games of next year, hands down, are StarCraft 2, Spore, and Brawl.

The leap from Melee to Brawl will destroy the leap from GTA3 to GTA4.




And I'm only saying this once in this thread: Nintendo is not the epitome of milking franchises. They are just the ONLY company to be this successful for this long. See the difference? Your argument will make sense when we stop having new Mega Man or Sonic games, or when a single developer on the planet decides that a franchise is... DONE. It doesn't happen.

Can you seriously talk shit about Nintendo while hyping Halo 3, Killzone 2, GTA4, MGS4, and FF13?

SEQUELITIS IS INDUSTRY-WIDE.

Yeah, people seem to like to ignore that Mario is on his third 3D platformer in an 11 year timespan; that is hardly what I would call 'milking a franchise' ... With the exception of Mario Party, most Nintendo games have 1 version released in an entire generation.



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HappySqurriel said:
Rubang B said:
The top 3 games of next year, hands down, are StarCraft 2, Spore, and Brawl.

The leap from Melee to Brawl will destroy the leap from GTA3 to GTA4.




And I'm only saying this once in this thread: Nintendo is not the epitome of milking franchises. They are just the ONLY company to be this successful for this long. See the difference? Your argument will make sense when we stop having new Mega Man or Sonic games, or when a single developer on the planet decides that a franchise is... DONE. It doesn't happen.

Can you seriously talk shit about Nintendo while hyping Halo 3, Killzone 2, GTA4, MGS4, and FF13?

SEQUELITIS IS INDUSTRY-WIDE.

Yeah, people seem to like to ignore that Mario is on his third 3D platformer in an 11 year timespan; that is hardly what I would call 'milking a franchise' ... With the exception of Mario Party, most Nintendo games have 1 version released in an entire generation.


Answer:

Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Mario hotel
Etc...






ItsaMii said:
A) Guns and/or swords

Are there no guns or swords in RE4, Zelda, Metroid....

 

The list itself isn't bad (aside from a few games), but the order is, so just ignore the order.

So what Wii games are missing from the list? The only thing I have seen mentioned so far is No More Heroes. 

As far as Spore is concerned, they don't list the PS3 and 360 versions either, and somehow I think those will probably be more similar to the PC version than the Wii version will be.

Again, ignoring the order, how many of these games should not be on the list?  I can only think of a few.

 

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

^crstaly cronc, and i did mention Bob Ross



 

Also Sadness, and Disaster:Day of Crisis



 

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konnichiwa said:
HappySqurriel said:
Rubang B said:
The top 3 games of next year, hands down, are StarCraft 2, Spore, and Brawl.

The leap from Melee to Brawl will destroy the leap from GTA3 to GTA4.




And I'm only saying this once in this thread: Nintendo is not the epitome of milking franchises. They are just the ONLY company to be this successful for this long. See the difference? Your argument will make sense when we stop having new Mega Man or Sonic games, or when a single developer on the planet decides that a franchise is... DONE. It doesn't happen.

Can you seriously talk shit about Nintendo while hyping Halo 3, Killzone 2, GTA4, MGS4, and FF13?

SEQUELITIS IS INDUSTRY-WIDE.

Yeah, people seem to like to ignore that Mario is on his third 3D platformer in an 11 year timespan; that is hardly what I would call 'milking a franchise' ... With the exception of Mario Party, most Nintendo games have 1 version released in an entire generation.


Answer:

Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Mario hotel
Etc...


 Answer: those are completely different genres of games.  Nintendo milks their characters, but that doesn't mean they make endless sequels.  Well, except Mario Party.



mesoteto said:

Also Sadness, and Disaster:Day of Crisis


Forget about the "of 2008" part, link for info on Sadness actually existing?

 

And Bob Ross?  Is that a joke? 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Waste of time.



^do you really ahve to ask about bob--and since tons of other games got the TBA for 2008 the wii should get some 2--and as far as i can tell its still on the way



 

ckmlb said: How many times can you fight Bowser? How many times can you drive in a circle in Mario Kart? How many times can you fight Ganondorf? How many times can you collect the same Pokemon and fight other Pokemon? How many times can you use a gravity gun to throw objects at enemies? I could go on forever but this can obviously apply to all sequels and/or games of the same genre...


 Do people realize I'm not just talking about GTA? We have GTA, Saints Row, Godfather, True Crime, Simpsons Hit and Run and I'm sure a pile of them I don't even know about.

I'm saying that the "sandbox" horse has been beaten to death, and I'm not suggesting that there aren't any OTHER genres that haven't likewise been beaten to death (FPSes being the primary culprit here) but it just seems like the GTA crime sandbox formula was hit hard and fast and when the genre consists of the same action no matter where you find it, I can't see why the genre stays afloat.

I admit that Godfather Blackhand was one of the most enjoyable games on the Wii with the motion control being as awesome as it was, but after becoming the don of NYC, I couldn't fathom ever playing a sandbox crime game all the way through ever again, just like I only ever played ONE Pokemon game (Ruby) just to see what the fuss was about and then never again. I couldn't fathom playing another one of those either.

Fighting Bowser is a different story because you're not always fighting him the same way. You could be jumping over him to hit a switch, throwing enemies in the air to hit him, spinning him by his tail into mines, firing his projectiles back at him, etc. In each case, the game is asking me to perform a different set of actions to succeed.

In sandbox games, you perform use the same controls to perform the same action each time. Running people over is still running people over, just as there's no tactile difference between beating a hooker with a bat in one game than another.

I realize that gaming in general suffers from this problem, but some genres do a good job of keeping it fresh while others just vomit out the same stuff over and over again and people keep buying them. Perhaps GTA IV will bring something new to the table, but I can't be the only one who has seen the explosion of the sandbox genre and its inevitable horse-beating. 



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks