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rakugakist on 16 August 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
unknown_soul89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

How is this thread not locked? Its such crap.

Going by shipped numbers a lone is ridiculous. I mean the title implies we're talking install base. Yet it shows shipped numbers?

yeah it shows the only accurate sales numbers in existence why on earth would someone use that?

Right, consoles sitting in shops counts as install base? Its just stupid.

But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.



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Icyedge on 16 August 2010
rakugakist said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:

But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.

True, as if its Sony or MS that decide how much consoles stores are to order. Tough, its possible Microsoft isnt able to fill all their orders at the moment. I guess thats what he meant.



rakugakist on 16 August 2010

Oh, and by the by, I mean these arguments in general.  They always go the same way.

360's fail and that causes more sales.

No, wait, PS3 owners bought their system just for blu-ray players.

Well, 360 has been out a year longer.

But Sony is flooding the channels.

Sony started off selling their system at $600.

360 sales more software.

It's just funny hearing the same arguments over and over again.



rakugakist on 16 August 2010
Icyedge said:
rakugakist said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
 

But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.

True, as if its Sony or MS that decide how much consoles stores are to order. Tough, its possible Microsoft isnt able to fill all their orders at the moment. I guess thats what he meant.

The flooding one is my favorite.  Sony can't force stores to buy their system. It makes no sense at all and is hardly an argument.



greenmedic88 on 16 August 2010

Sony is not flooding retail outlets with inventory.

That has to be the most flawed line of reasoning to explain the discrepancy between *estimated* sold numbers and reported shipped numbers by the manufacturers themselves.

One is debatable, the other is not.

Besides, if memory serves me correctly, it wasn't until earlier this quarter than production was finally reported to be meeting demand on the revised PS3, which shoots an even bigger hole in the "flood" explaination unless you're into tinfoil hat conspiracies and still believe that SCE is forcing all retailers to build fortresses out of unsold PS3 inventory in their stockrooms.



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greenmedic88 on 16 August 2010

Incidentally, software sales support the likelihood that the install base is still higher for the Xbox.



rakugakist on 17 August 2010

I know this doesn't mean anything at all, but my local Wal Mart has over 100 old school 360 arcades sitting there that don't sell.  They have 16 PS3's total, and 10 360 S systems total.  I think Microsoft is stuffing channels with old hardware. lol.



Icyedge on 17 August 2010
greenmedic88 said:

Incidentally, software sales support the likelihood that the install base is still higher for the Xbox.


PS3 sold more software in the last fiscal year and is still doing. As example, if you check this week numbers, PS3 sold more software. Its been like that for a while now. So software actually could support PS3 having a higher install base. But, obvioulsy, thats not the only possible conclusion.

"The PlayStation 3 enjoyed 115.6 million software sales in the Sony’s 2009-fiscal year (runs from May 1st 2009 to April 30th 2010), up from 2008’s 103.7 million units. Surprisingly, despite a lower hardware installed base, this performance was better than that of the Xbox 360, which achieved 103.1 million software sales."

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/



tuscaniman on 17 August 2010
chocoloco said:
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chocoloco said:
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unknown_soul89 said:
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Plenty of PS3 owners picked up a slim to replace their older models. 360 has a bigger install base.

Although that is true, for everyone one that replaced their old model with a slim theres probably about 3 that did it for the jasper and about 1 that did it again for the 360 silm 


Oh ok you're right. I must be imagining things then when every person I know owns a 360 and I can count on one hand how many people own a PS3. Its time for you to buy a calendar and realize this isn't 1999 when Sony dominated. The 360 has sold more consoles, has a bigger install base, and is annihilating the PS3 in USA and will continue to do so. In the others region its a heated battle. Sony has Japan and always will.

Its stupid to use your own experience to judge the overall rates of anything. I really hope you are 13 or so or that you never attended college. Most of the people I know suprisingly own both equally does that mean Americans own the 360 and PS3 equally, Hell no.

Actually I'm 29 and attending college for a Computer Graphics Technology major. Before you try to assume that I don't know what I'm talking about and using my own personal experiences as an example is worthless you might want to polish up your grammar skills. It is a fact that the 360 has sold many more consoles in the USA which is exactly what I just said in my post. Hence I live in the USA therefore I know many more people who own a 360 compared to a PS3.

Wow I don't know what to say, 29 and still acting like a company represents you. I am not debating whether the 360 has sold more here, I don't care so much as your logic of using ones own experience to say something is true is very faulty. Also under your reasoning you make it sound as if you know every person in America.

I would love to have a battle of wits with you since you obviously don't have any, but of course it would be a waste of time. My reasoning was the 360 is winning NA, the biggest gaming market in the world, and therefore it is keeping the 360 ahead. Contrary to what you might believe most people don't own multiple 360s. The  most logical answer is the 360 has a bigger install base since it has sold the most consoles. Until you or anyone else has proof to show otherwise then this cannot be argued.



Mr Puggsly on 17 August 2010
rakugakist said:
Icyedge said:
rakugakist said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
 

But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.

True, as if its Sony or MS that decide how much consoles stores are to order. Tough, its possible Microsoft isnt able to fill all their orders at the moment. I guess thats what he meant.

The flooding one is my favorite.  Sony can't force stores to buy their system. It makes no sense at all and is hardly an argument.

You understand the context right? He was asking why are there more PS3s in shops than 360s.

Obviously the demand for 360 has been bigger. This may have everything to do with PS3 having more units in stock.



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