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chocoloco on 17 August 2010
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Plenty of PS3 owners picked up a slim to replace their older models. 360 has a bigger install base.

Although that is true, for everyone one that replaced their old model with a slim theres probably about 3 that did it for the jasper and about 1 that did it again for the 360 silm 


Oh ok you're right. I must be imagining things then when every person I know owns a 360 and I can count on one hand how many people own a PS3. Its time for you to buy a calendar and realize this isn't 1999 when Sony dominated. The 360 has sold more consoles, has a bigger install base, and is annihilating the PS3 in USA and will continue to do so. In the others region its a heated battle. Sony has Japan and always will.

Its stupid to use your own experience to judge the overall rates of anything. I really hope you are 13 or so or that you never attended college. Most of the people I know suprisingly own both equally does that mean Americans own the 360 and PS3 equally, Hell no.

Actually I'm 29 and attending college for a Computer Graphics Technology major. Before you try to assume that I don't know what I'm talking about and using my own personal experiences as an example is worthless you might want to polish up your grammar skills. It is a fact that the 360 has sold many more consoles in the USA which is exactly what I just said in my post. Hence I live in the USA therefore I know many more people who own a 360 compared to a PS3.

Wow I don't know what to say, 29 and still acting like a company represents you. I am not debating whether the 360 has sold more here, I don't care so much as your logic of using ones own experience to say something is true is very faulty. Also under your reasoning you make it sound as if you know every person in America.

I would love to have a battle of wits with you since you obviously don't have any, but of course it would be a waste of time. My reasoning was the 360 is winning NA, the biggest gaming market in the world, and therefore it is keeping the 360 ahead. Contrary to what you might believe most people don't own multiple 360s. The  most logical answer is the 360 has a bigger install base since it has sold the most consoles. Until you or anyone else has proof to show otherwise then this cannot be argued.

There you go sounding like a kid again. Also for your info I have been playing my 360 all night. Also i have brocken two ps3's the second one broke about 3 weeks ago and I have not broke a 360 so obviously people are replacing consoles on both sides. I also agree the 360 has a slightly bigger install base, but you are to hooked on the 360 and ned settle down. I own the 360, Wii and PS3 (when replaced) and am sick of your absolutist talk that 360 is the best and that Halo is the best. By the way I have been playing Halo: Combat evolved all night as I am replaying the series. PEACE!

Yeah but ps3s are around 3 million failed 360s are around 17 million (not counting multiple failures for the same person) so yes they are being replaced on both sides but alot more 360 are being replaced then ps3s especially with MS misleading ppl to think each new model which they barely changed anything somehow magically fixed the failrate 


This is true, but my main point is this man is to caught up in one compony, Microsoft and that this crap. We all know the 360 had an early catastrophe with failure rates, my main point is to tell people to settle down and not be so biased towards one company. My PS3's have failed, seems logical since I used it more.

The 360's gigantic early failure rate is the only reason peoiple question if the currently opperating model is less than the PS3. It makes sense, but we don't need one sided opinions that state one console is greater than another. I am getting sick of this.

You might want to go back and reread my posts because you're wasting your time trying to prove a point to me. I'm making a case for the 360 to battle these ridiculous pro PS3 threads that have been popping up every hour the past 2 days. For example "Who do you think has the largest install base?," or "The PS3 has already caught up to the 360 and outsold it," or my personal favorite "Gran Turismo 1-4 has sold the entire Halo series."

You don't see these types of threads popping up for the 360 now do you? Why do the PS3 owners have such an inferiority complex? Why do you PS3 owners take this "console battle" so seriously? Does it actually give you physical pain that the 360 is selling better than the PS3?


For the first time your posts make sense. This site has been overwhelmed by Sony enthusiests. I just think they have an excuse as their console in in third place. I hope the more people can wake up and realize that the 360 and Ps3 have the best to offer the long time gamer. So I'm tired of the superiorty bullshit.



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binary solo on 17 August 2010

According to my proprietary mathematical modelling 360 has a larger install base by 576,221.5 units. With the standard 10% MoE.

There, that should end all current and future debate.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

ArnoldRimmer on 17 August 2010

I think there might indeed be more people who own a PS3 than people who own a 360.

The number of shipped console is always higher than the number of people who own a console, one reason being that some people own more than one console.

From my experience, the percentage of people who own more than one 360 is a lot higher than the number of people who more than one PS3. One major reason is the fact that the 360 can so easily be modified to play pirated games and that Microsoft bans modded consoles at least once a year. Every single 360 owner I know owns a modded one. Obviously that is not representative for all 360 owners, but I'm sure the percentage of people who own a modded 360 is quite significant, just like the number of owners of modded PSPs.

Since Microsoft bans modded consoles at least once a year, these people usually own at least two 360s. One that got banned and which is used to play pirated games offline, and one unmodded 360 which is used for playing original games that the person really wants to play online. If a modded console gets broken - which is almost guaranteed to happen sooner or later if it's not one of the newer revisions - then these consoles are not returned to Microsoft for repair because they refuse to repair it or they would charge a ridiculous amount of money. So they buy another 360, mod it, and the old one usually goes in the trash or some cupboard. There is a 360 internet forum that I visit from time to time where I have seen lots of people saying that meanwhile they have 4 or more 360s at home.

And even many owners of unmodded consoles buy more than one. As everyone knows, the failure rate of the 360 was ridiculously high for most of the 360's lifespan, and at some point even 3 years of warranty against RROD were over. Repairing those units doesn't make sense, those people will instead simply buy a new one.

So I think there might indeed be more owners of PS3s. But in the end - what does does that mean anyway? I think for the manufacturers other numbers are much more important than the number of owners.



Antabus on 17 August 2010
rakugakist said:
Icyedge said:
rakugakist said:
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But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.

True, as if its Sony or MS that decide how much consoles stores are to order. Tough, its possible Microsoft isnt able to fill all their orders at the moment. I guess thats what he meant.

The flooding one is my favorite.  Sony can't force stores to buy their system. It makes no sense at all and is hardly an argument.

Why not? They don't sell you less than X numbers of consoles per order. ;)

But Sony has shipped more PS3's than they needed because retailers overestimated the demand for PS3 slim a bit and 360 shipped numbers are closer to current sales numbers because of the current demand of 360s.



scat398 on 17 August 2010

the 360 has a larger install base in America, England, UK.

PS3 has a larger install base in Europe and Japan.

 

Software sales are your friends.



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Icyedge on 17 August 2010
Antabus said:
rakugakist said:
Icyedge said:
rakugakist said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
 

But why shops would have more PS3s sitting than 360s? Im not taking any side or saying VGchartz numbers are wrong, im really wandering why since both console sale at a similar rate. Im a sales manager myself (not in the video game business) we only keep more of stuff that sales more. Does Sony ask for bigger minimum order than Microsoft? Does Sony deserve more store than Microsoft?

Maybe MS just hasen't had the opportunity to flood the stores with consoles yet? Lets bear in mind the 360 is selling significantly better than the PS3 at the moment.


Ha ha ha, flood the stores.  These arguments are so funny.

True, as if its Sony or MS that decide how much consoles stores are to order. Tough, its possible Microsoft isnt able to fill all their orders at the moment. I guess thats what he meant.

The flooding one is my favorite.  Sony can't force stores to buy their system. It makes no sense at all and is hardly an argument.

Why not? They don't sell you less than X numbers of consoles per order. ;)

But Sony has shipped more PS3's than they needed because retailers overestimated the demand for PS3 slim a bit and 360 shipped numbers are closer to current sales numbers because of the current demand of 360s.

Its been only 1 month and half 360 is selling more than PS3 (around 100 K more per week). That does not explain the big diff. between shipped and sold between the two. Someone was able to know what is the minimum order for both companies? Also, how many stores Sony and Microsoft sells to?



Antabus on 17 August 2010
Icyedge said:
Antabus said:

Why not? They don't sell you less than X numbers of consoles per order. ;)

But Sony has shipped more PS3's than they needed because retailers overestimated the demand for PS3 slim a bit and 360 shipped numbers are closer to current sales numbers because of the current demand of 360s.

Its been only 1 month and half 360 is selling more than PS3 (around 100 K more per week). That does not explain the big diff. between shipped and sold between the two. Someone was able to know what is the minimum order for both companies? Also, how many stores Sony and Microsoft sells to?

Why not? 360s is propably supply constrained somewhere even today. Don't know about that, but I am pretty sure that there aren't huge stocks of them sitting at warehouse shelves. PS3 had ha huge success with the slim version and that might have resulted in a slight overstocking by some retailers. One million difference between shipped and sold is pretty ordinary (at least I think so) and one million more to that is not stretching it too far.



hsrob on 17 August 2010

This thread again?  Despite a 42% failure rate, it's still currently the best selling home console in the world, the thing must be awesome!



unknown_soul89 on 17 August 2010
chocoloco said:
unknown_soul89 said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
unknown_soul89 said:
tuscaniman said:

Plenty of PS3 owners picked up a slim to replace their older models. 360 has a bigger install base.

Although that is true, for everyone one that replaced their old model with a slim theres probably about 3 that did it for the jasper and about 1 that did it again for the 360 silm 


Oh ok you're right. I must be imagining things then when every person I know owns a 360 and I can count on one hand how many people own a PS3. Its time for you to buy a calendar and realize this isn't 1999 when Sony dominated. The 360 has sold more consoles, has a bigger install base, and is annihilating the PS3 in USA and will continue to do so. In the others region its a heated battle. Sony has Japan and always will.

Its stupid to use your own experience to judge the overall rates of anything. I really hope you are 13 or so or that you never attended college. Most of the people I know suprisingly own both equally does that mean Americans own the 360 and PS3 equally, Hell no.

Actually I'm 29 and attending college for a Computer Graphics Technology major. Before you try to assume that I don't know what I'm talking about and using my own personal experiences as an example is worthless you might want to polish up your grammar skills. It is a fact that the 360 has sold many more consoles in the USA which is exactly what I just said in my post. Hence I live in the USA therefore I know many more people who own a 360 compared to a PS3.

Wow I don't know what to say, 29 and still acting like a company represents you. I am not debating whether the 360 has sold more here, I don't care so much as your logic of using ones own experience to say something is true is very faulty. Also under your reasoning you make it sound as if you know every person in America.

I would love to have a battle of wits with you since you obviously don't have any, but of course it would be a waste of time. My reasoning was the 360 is winning NA, the biggest gaming market in the world, and therefore it is keeping the 360 ahead. Contrary to what you might believe most people don't own multiple 360s. The  most logical answer is the 360 has a bigger install base since it has sold the most consoles. Until you or anyone else has proof to show otherwise then this cannot be argued.

There you go sounding like a kid again. Also for your info I have been playing my 360 all night. Also i have brocken two ps3's the second one broke about 3 weeks ago and I have not broke a 360 so obviously people are replacing consoles on both sides. I also agree the 360 has a slightly bigger install base, but you are to hooked on the 360 and ned settle down. I own the 360, Wii and PS3 (when replaced) and am sick of your absolutist talk that 360 is the best and that Halo is the best. By the way I have been playing Halo: Combat evolved all night as I am replaying the series. PEACE!

Yeah but ps3s are around 3 million failed 360s are around 17 million (not counting multiple failures for the same person) so yes they are being replaced on both sides but alot more 360 are being replaced then ps3s especially with MS misleading ppl to think each new model which they barely changed anything somehow magically fixed the failrate 


This is true, but my main point is this man is to caught up in one compony, Microsoft and that this crap. We all know the 360 had an early catastrophe with failure rates, my main point is to tell people to settle down and not be so biased towards one company. My PS3's have failed, seems logical since I used it more.

The 360's gigantic early failure rate is the only reason peoiple question if the currently opperating model is less than the PS3. It makes sense, but we don't need one sided opinions that state one console is greater than another. I am getting sick of this.

Um no offense but by all quantifiable aspects the ps3 is better then the 360, and thats just a fact 



unknown_soul89 on 17 August 2010
tuscaniman said:
chocoloco said:
unknown_soul89 said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
chocoloco said:
tuscaniman said:
unknown_soul89 said:
tuscaniman said:

Plenty of PS3 owners picked up a slim to replace their older models. 360 has a bigger install base.

Although that is true, for everyone one that replaced their old model with a slim theres probably about 3 that did it for the jasper and about 1 that did it again for the 360 silm 


Oh ok you're right. I must be imagining things then when every person I know owns a 360 and I can count on one hand how many people own a PS3. Its time for you to buy a calendar and realize this isn't 1999 when Sony dominated. The 360 has sold more consoles, has a bigger install base, and is annihilating the PS3 in USA and will continue to do so. In the others region its a heated battle. Sony has Japan and always will.

Its stupid to use your own experience to judge the overall rates of anything. I really hope you are 13 or so or that you never attended college. Most of the people I know suprisingly own both equally does that mean Americans own the 360 and PS3 equally, Hell no.

Actually I'm 29 and attending college for a Computer Graphics Technology major. Before you try to assume that I don't know what I'm talking about and using my own personal experiences as an example is worthless you might want to polish up your grammar skills. It is a fact that the 360 has sold many more consoles in the USA which is exactly what I just said in my post. Hence I live in the USA therefore I know many more people who own a 360 compared to a PS3.

Wow I don't know what to say, 29 and still acting like a company represents you. I am not debating whether the 360 has sold more here, I don't care so much as your logic of using ones own experience to say something is true is very faulty. Also under your reasoning you make it sound as if you know every person in America.

I would love to have a battle of wits with you since you obviously don't have any, but of course it would be a waste of time. My reasoning was the 360 is winning NA, the biggest gaming market in the world, and therefore it is keeping the 360 ahead. Contrary to what you might believe most people don't own multiple 360s. The  most logical answer is the 360 has a bigger install base since it has sold the most consoles. Until you or anyone else has proof to show otherwise then this cannot be argued.

There you go sounding like a kid again. Also for your info I have been playing my 360 all night. Also i have brocken two ps3's the second one broke about 3 weeks ago and I have not broke a 360 so obviously people are replacing consoles on both sides. I also agree the 360 has a slightly bigger install base, but you are to hooked on the 360 and ned settle down. I own the 360, Wii and PS3 (when replaced) and am sick of your absolutist talk that 360 is the best and that Halo is the best. By the way I have been playing Halo: Combat evolved all night as I am replaying the series. PEACE!

Yeah but ps3s are around 3 million failed 360s are around 17 million (not counting multiple failures for the same person) so yes they are being replaced on both sides but alot more 360 are being replaced then ps3s especially with MS misleading ppl to think each new model which they barely changed anything somehow magically fixed the failrate 


This is true, but my main point is this man is to caught up in one compony, Microsoft and that this crap. We all know the 360 had an early catastrophe with failure rates, my main point is to tell people to settle down and not be so biased towards one company. My PS3's have failed, seems logical since I used it more.

The 360's gigantic early failure rate is the only reason peoiple question if the currently opperating model is less than the PS3. It makes sense, but we don't need one sided opinions that state one console is greater than another. I am getting sick of this.

You might want to go back and reread my posts because you're wasting your time trying to prove a point to me. I'm making a case for the 360 to battle these ridiculous pro PS3 threads that have been popping up every hour the past 2 days. For example "Who do you think has the largest install base?," or "The PS3 has already caught up to the 360 and outsold it," or my personal favorite "Gran Turismo 1-4 has sold the entire Halo series."

You don't see these types of threads popping up for the 360 now do you? Why do the PS3 owners have such an inferiority complex? Why do you PS3 owners take this "console battle" so seriously? Does it actually give you physical pain that the 360 is selling better than the PS3?

Um dude the 360 has a failrate of 40% asking if the ps3 has a larger install base is a fair question