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SciFiBoy2.0 on 20 August 2010
theRepublic said:
SciFiBoy2.0 said:

heck, ive been way more active than several players, yet for some reason, TheRepublic has focused entirely on me so far, with the addition of ignoring any of my posts that challenge his view of me, plus you can now add his "lynch all liars" post, which seems designed soley to throw suspicion on you (imo you dont seem like scum, infact you seem to be helping the town), its also daft as I believe you already addressed those posts earlier in the game.

Theprof is the biggest distraction the town has right now in my eyes.  Unfortunately, he is apparently lynch-proof.

I dunno, so far he has done more than pretty much anyone else to keep conversation going which is throwing out suspects and discussion.

it seems unlikely to me that mafia, especially relatively inexperienced mafia, would be daft enough to make themselves the centre of attention and the most pro-active player during the day.



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sabby_e17 on 20 August 2010
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
sabby_e17 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
hatmoza said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Vetteman94 said:

How is his elaborate theory any better than the other that has been laid out in his opposition?  

Hell I'll play the speculation game for a minute here.  It seems the Gods are pro-town,  its probably a bad assumption but i think its true at least some of them are,  so why and how would he be able to turn a character to aid the very people Kratos seeks for revenge?  And he claims to be someone who also plots against those very Gods


Posting from work, I haven't read to whole thread yet but there was something in this post I wanted to go back on before I forget.

In this post Vetteman is saying "It seems the Gods are pro-town", why would he have to make this an assumption? ANSWER: He's not a God (or he's a dissident God) and he's trying to figure out who the "pro-towns" are so he can like he's one of them. Add to that his jumpy behavior after hatmoza's defense and he's earned my vote.

Vote: Vetteman94

I agree with this.

However, read the above posts and convince us you're not the Kratos. And if you are, maybe we can arrange for you to be a vigilante still!

I personally want it to be Heph >:[ I'll have so much pleasure in lynching him

Sorry to quote myself yet again but nobody except hatmoza commented on this information I dug up on Vetteman. Since j0 asked for people we suspect most, I thought I'd bring it up again.

I'd like to know what everyone thinks of it? Especially Vetteman of course.

Vote: Vetteman94


I've been suspecting Vetteman, Silver-tiger and SciFiBoy for a long time because of them voting Hatmoza based on other players analysis. It was almost like they were bandwagoning on Hatmoza when some other guy dishes out some "evidence". They completely ignore Hatmoza's role-claim and why it would be a very risky thing to do (lynch him). Not only that, but they're ready to unvote Hatmoza when there's some other guy's analyisis on why Hatmoza shouldn't be lynched.

I dont recall voting for Hatmoza...

and I never ignored his role claim...I queried some of his activities, and I even brought up the risk of lynching him myself earlier today...why do you and TheRepublic happen to have the same selective memories? and why are you posting this now, so conviently just after I challenged TheRepublic and his suspicion of me?


I haven't been going back to check previous posts because theres so many posts, and I just don't feel like reading atm (its 1.30 am here)

I'll go back and read the thread tomorrow. You did however agree with noname with his huge analysis rather quickly. I feel these kinda actions are scummy (players hoping onto other ideas)

Also, I haven't been posting "this now", I've been doing it since some time. Go check.




dtewi on 20 August 2010
theRepublic said:

Does everyone notice how I am looking at many different players, yet SciFiBoy's sole focus seems to be on me?  He has ONE vote against him.  Overreact much?  Not to mention tunnel vision is a scum trait.


I think you've been on SFB's ass a little much and he's cracking.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

theprof00 on 20 August 2010
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
theprof00 said:

explain why it doesn't make any sense.


@ me?

I posted a number of posts yesterday that challenged what other people where saying, I had several conversations with Hatmoza as im not convinced about his "plans", I also posted my thoughts on other stuff too!

heck, ive been way more active than several players, yet for some reason, TheRepublic has focused entirely on me so far, with the addition of ignoring any of my posts that challenge his view of me, plus you can now add his "lynch all liars" post, which seems designed soley to throw suspicion on you (imo you dont seem like scum, infact you seem to be helping the town), its also daft as I believe you already addressed those posts earlier in the game.

oh lol no not you. you are way below my radar right now. He doesn't seem to be reading all the posts before he himself posts, right?

Everytime he writes something, it's like "I just answered that question"



SciFiBoy2.0 on 20 August 2010
theRepublic said:

Does everyone notice how I am looking at many different players, yet SciFiBoy's sole focus seems to be on me?  He has ONE vote against him.  Overreact much?  Not to mention tunnel vision is a scum trait.

again, this is desperate, ignore my points against you and look for any reason to suspect me, if anyone has tunnel vision here, its you.



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theprof00 on 20 August 2010
theRepublic said:

Does everyone notice how I am looking at many different players, yet SciFiBoy's sole focus seems to be on me?  He has ONE vote against him.  Overreact much?  Not to mention tunnel vision is a scum trait.


Yeah does anyone else notice how theRepublic is creating as much confusion as possible?



SciFiBoy2.0 on 20 August 2010
sabby_e17 said:
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
sabby_e17 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
hatmoza said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Vetteman94 said:

How is his elaborate theory any better than the other that has been laid out in his opposition?  

Hell I'll play the speculation game for a minute here.  It seems the Gods are pro-town,  its probably a bad assumption but i think its true at least some of them are,  so why and how would he be able to turn a character to aid the very people Kratos seeks for revenge?  And he claims to be someone who also plots against those very Gods


Posting from work, I haven't read to whole thread yet but there was something in this post I wanted to go back on before I forget.

In this post Vetteman is saying "It seems the Gods are pro-town", why would he have to make this an assumption? ANSWER: He's not a God (or he's a dissident God) and he's trying to figure out who the "pro-towns" are so he can like he's one of them. Add to that his jumpy behavior after hatmoza's defense and he's earned my vote.

Vote: Vetteman94

I agree with this.

However, read the above posts and convince us you're not the Kratos. And if you are, maybe we can arrange for you to be a vigilante still!

I personally want it to be Heph >:[ I'll have so much pleasure in lynching him

Sorry to quote myself yet again but nobody except hatmoza commented on this information I dug up on Vetteman. Since j0 asked for people we suspect most, I thought I'd bring it up again.

I'd like to know what everyone thinks of it? Especially Vetteman of course.

Vote: Vetteman94


I've been suspecting Vetteman, Silver-tiger and SciFiBoy for a long time because of them voting Hatmoza based on other players analysis. It was almost like they were bandwagoning on Hatmoza when some other guy dishes out some "evidence". They completely ignore Hatmoza's role-claim and why it would be a very risky thing to do (lynch him). Not only that, but they're ready to unvote Hatmoza when there's some other guy's analyisis on why Hatmoza shouldn't be lynched.

I dont recall voting for Hatmoza...

and I never ignored his role claim...I queried some of his activities, and I even brought up the risk of lynching him myself earlier today...why do you and TheRepublic happen to have the same selective memories? and why are you posting this now, so conviently just after I challenged TheRepublic and his suspicion of me?


I haven't been going back to check previous posts because theres so many posts, and I just don't feel like reading atm (its 1.30 am here)

I'll go back and read the thread tomorrow. You did however agree with noname with his huge analysis rather quickly. I feel these kinda actions are scummy (players hoping onto other ideas)

Also, I haven't been posting "this now", I've been doing it since some time. Go check.

several people have done the bolded throughout the game...why only focus on me?

im not saying you only posted now, im saying this is the only time ive seen you post and put suspicion on me, and even if its not, the fact you chose to re-iterate it so close to my post in reply to TheRepublic does seem very convinient to say the least.



theprof00 on 20 August 2010
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:

That was a great find. I read that before but roleblocker didn't pop into my mind. 

Now that we know the stories actually give clues as to what happened during the night (poseidon) we shouldn't ignore this roleblocker. 

Although, there's still the difference between the blocker being pro-town or anti-town. 

EDIT - I just made a sad realizing I said exactly what TruckO said.  

Read more of my posts. 

Basically, it's either their role blocker, or ours, and either way, both sides could have one. 

It seems like the situation is like a capture the flag (the flag in this case being a serial killer). It would be hard to imagine if both sides didn't have similar abilities.

A lot of times both sides don't have similar abilities.

Ok, well, I was under the impression they had at least basic ones. 



theRepublic on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:

explain why it doesn't make any sense.

I think this was actually directed at me.  Your whole big long quote tree about the serial killer being turned into a vigilante thing seems to be based on some misunderstandings on the game.  Experience will help.  You seem very against the idea that Hephaestos receives long term protection, but that is exactly what the doctor is there for.  If someone more important turns up, like the deputy, the doctor can move on to protecting them.

Sure, it is nice for the doctor to be able to randomly protect people to keep the mafia on their toes, but when an important player is revealed, they need to be protected.



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dtewi on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:

You can't even admit that it was the wrong thing to do. Voting nikells was a stab in the dark, it really was.

Besides, Hat already knew who the SK was, he was gunning for heph in all his posts. We didn't need to risk a false lynch. It was wrong, and you can't admit that you jumped onto the bandwagon so hard and fast that it was irrational and scummy. Instead, you try and prove how determined you were to bandwagon. 

whatevs, you don't see why this is suspect behavior, but why would you, you're 100% sure that Nikells isn't on your team. You're also 100% sure that mafia doesn't have a hitman, and I'd bet, 100% sure that names and alignment are linked.

Don't you think it's odd that dtewi is so sure about everything, even things that aren't backed up with fact and rather a stereotypical attitude? All mafia say it's a mistake before they get lynched, right? 

Nikells vote was in case Heph wasn't the SK. 

How about this? Were you so sure that Nikells was the SK before Heph's role claim? No, you just bring up that up after Nikells was cleared. 

I said it makes sense because it makes sense. Kronos, Khuutra's identity, is anti-town according to the God of War wiki. Appollo, Kantor's role, identity, isn't. It makes sense for characters and alignments to be linked because it's common sense.

The reason why I say there isn't a mafia vigilante because no one ever does that. For the past 18 games, there has not been ONE instance of a mafia vigilante. Why? Because giving mafia two kills is imbalanced! Don't mistake my experience with the game as scummy behavior!



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you