actually it was a pretty good first day I thought :p usually it's only (no vote no vote....)

Wow, this is soo offtopic.

Anyway, I'm waiting for hatmoza's big answer to his accusations, but at the moment, I'm on the verge of voting for him.

"And I believe Appolo" is a phrase meaning that it has no affect on the independent clause.

"Silver was killed by Appolo" is the independent clause "And I believe Appolo" is a phrase that doesn't affect it.

So I believe it's still was.

1) we can assume someone checked hatmoza last night... hopefully they'll come forward...

2) Athena is a pretty bold name claim to be faking it... arthemis on the other hand....

3) no it doesn't see 2

4) far fetched

5) ok

6) Kanor got butchered... so not a mafia kill... unless you mean mafia could kill FF, send out khuutra on a kill and comit an other hit?

7) Kantor is indeed a guide... maybe his night action is to lie detect a post AND share the result with someone.... that would be only one action. and no this is not farfetched, it actually makes sense with the role he had.

How do we know that Hatmoza is indeed who he says he is? We lost the cop last round didn't we and as far as I can tell noone investigated him to find out whether he was indeed who he said he was. Do we have another cop? I don't know. What I do know is that if I were it Hatmoza's shoes I would consider doing exactly what he is doing...

I will  change my lynch to someone else if theres a better candidate presented but at this point he is the most likely mafia I can see. What I don't understand is why the cop didn't investigate him? Or if the cop did investigate him perhaps somehow the cop was diverted? He was the obvious choice for investigation last round and yet I don't see any proof either way. Surely the cop has some kind of night action which would have gone ahead whether he was killed or not?!

What do you mean someone checked him? Everyone who could check him and report him is dead.

And of course Kantor got butchered! I'm not talking about a mafia kill! I'm talking about an SK kill by hatmoza.

Lie detectors can't share their role or else they lose their power. Could explain why Kantor harbored suspicion.

Maybe hatmoza is not a serial killer per se, but I doubt that he's trying to cure him over to our side considering Athena seems to be very anti-town.

interesting, see with the commas I would have put a were too.... but then the sentence is the same as "Silver was killed by patapon,  and I believe Appolo too.", is that what you mean?

Yeah, basically.

If the cop is dead he's dead. He won't show us any investigation results he might have found. 

There's always the possibility of a deputy who replaces the cop after they die. Considering no one has come up with an investigation on hatmoza it shows either:

a) the cop investigated someone else who was pro-town, deputy doesn't feel it is important enough to show
b) the cop got nothing
c) hatmoza was found to be innocent but the deputy decides to not say it
d) there's no deputy in the first place

Kratos has been defined as massacred "skilled warriror"... do you mean to say there are 2 SKs?

Kantor sending a message through the mod would not be sharing his role... Hatmoza called to Appolo to not reveal himself... so the mod sent him a message from Appolo, not Kantor.

err yeah that's 50/50... with a cop, a vigilante and a lie detector dead, can we afford a mistake costing us a townie and an other vigilante? remember that recruiting not only gets a vigilante, but it also increases the number of town players....

I'm not saying Hat is out of suspiscion... i'm saying he shouldn'd be lynched.