rofl

@noname too

I already said I wanted the day extended.

trying to cast suspicion on the mod now...very interesting jk

Too late I guess.

ok, I'm incredibly sorry people, but I think I can't participate on the discussion this night either. I go partying again, but I will read through your posts the next morning, so please excuse my lack of participation. I promise I will join the discussion as soon I can. ( This means as soon the most alcohol is out ;) )

My last words for today: Squilliam is really behaving a bit suspicious, but it enough to warrant a lynch? IMHO he made some dumb decisions, but I don't want the blood on my hands from a newb townie.

Why?

Because you're making mountains out of molehills. I make some assumptions that anyone would make if they had experience with mafia (which you don't).

Experienced players would think that there is no mafia vigilante.

People with common sense would assume alignment would make sense according to your character.

I did all of these things that are not baseless assumptions, that actually make sense, and your inexperience drives you to believe that they're wrong.

You can never be 100% in mafia.

But you can't second-guess yourself about everything.

You have to have some confidence in what you think is right, and not having confidence causes you to become paranoid and unsure of whom to vote for. I have some confidence in what I think, and you, a person not being confident, mistakes it for scummy behavior.

I am confident. I pushed you hard in several areas, and you've been defensive the whole time, attempting to discredit me in every way, but I don't remember once you considering me a suspect. Instead you've said that I'm inexperienced. To that I agree. The post you quoted was not for you to answer. I'm wondering why people consider you scummy, where before there wasn't much attention on you at all. I don't think anyone was suspicious of you before and now there are several people. 

I'm not saying I have valid points. I want to know what other peoples motivations are.

Maybe there are some points I haven't considered, or maybe you are being scapegoated to replace squilliam. 

No I'm not! Stop lying!

I have not been trying to discredit you, you've been trying to discredit me at every turn!

every mention of inexperience, confusion, or even, lol "lying", are blatant moves to discredit. That's not a bad thing. Discrediting an opponent does not make you guilty. 

Why do you feel so strongly that it does? You're not even under the hotspot and you gave me 3 exclamation points!

And to be honest, these were my suspicions of you:

1: nobody was suspicious of you
2: playing fairly 'above' the game, like you're not involved.
3: Urging that we were safe in recruiting heph and doctoring him. To you there was no possibility that mafia had a recruiter/roleblocker.
4: Urging that mafia did not have their own type of secondary night-killer.
5: Trying to convince me that Hat simply made a mistake. My sequence of events was a BETTER move. If I was in Hat's position at that time, it is what I would have done. And tonight we would have the SK, nobody would have known who it was, and Nikells would have been lynched (well not nikells cuz I didn't think he was guilty, I only believed that Hat had a very good reason to think he did.

Anyway, I agree that role/alignment are linked.. but I got off track. I was trying to get you to think that I knew your name but I didn't want to come right out and say it because I would be caught lying. Instead I tried to tiptoe around the subtlety.

Like I said, I don't are. I'm not targeting you. I'm asking everyone else why THEY are suspecting you, not why YOU think you're innocent.

Meant to say "I don't care" at the end.

You seem pretty intent on making a dramatic stand. W/e