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twesterm said:
theprof00 said:
twesterm said:
theprof00 said:
rocketpig said:
 


Wow. Just wow. I don't see how the camera thing (which was rather clever) excludes this girl from being funny by quitting via white board and photos. They're both pretty damned funny.

And as someone who has been through an actual job-related lawsuit before, I'll tell you that it's better just to say "fuck you" and walk away most of the time. Besides, what was she going to sue for? Being called a HPOA? Yeah, that one will fly in court... a one-off situation where it would be her word versus her boss. Great.

BTW, nice comment about her just being a HPOA. I didn't realize you actually knew the girl.

My comments have more to do with the credibility of this "story". What she just did would get her sued by a real company for slander (or would it be libel since it was written on a chalk board?). This has viral written all over it.

Ok so I'm misinformed about how sexual harassment lawsuits work. Sucks to be me. I was pretty sure in our court system that judges and juries favored what the woman says. Especially when the sexual derogation makes someone (want to) leave their workplace.

My other comment about her being an HPOA ties in with my view because I'm not going to respond seriously if I'm going to be lied to. "You go girl!"




Just like how it wouldn't be worth the time, effort, and money to bring up a sexual harassment lawsuit, it wouldn't be worth the time, effort, and money to bring up a slander lawsuit.

If real I'm sure the guy is pissed, but there wouldn't be much either of them could really do about it.

Not too sure about that. Her violation is recorded whereas his isn't. Plus, that is what companies have lawyer teams for. They get paid whether they work or not.


Even with direct evidence, it still costs a lot of time and money to take someone to court.  Even assuming this place has lawyers that could take the case (which I doubt they do since it's only a 20 person company) it would still be years in court.  That would be years consuming his time and his lawyers when both of their time would be better spent on other things.

Don't get me wrong, if both took their cases to court she would most definitely lose and he would most definitely win, it's just it wouldn't be worth the effort, time, and money in the end.  He would either get a judgment against her that in no way pays for his and the lawyers time wasted or he would get a judgment large enough to cover that cost but she would never pay it anyways because she just couldn't.

Going to court for any of them is just a lose-lose situation all around.  She gets the satisfaction of what she did and he gets the satisfaction of black-balling her with everyone he knows, that's about as far as it will ever go.

If I was her, I would be more worried about the source article finding her last name because the next time she applies for a job she will be googled and the employer will see that.

Ok, I don't know how courts work where she's from but in 'Merica the loser has to pay the winner's legal fees as well as whatever ruling was made. And if she can't pay it her credit rating would eventually be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense for a sane individual, especially one demonstrating such a so-called "clever response", to risk losing everything...again, quitting a job in this market??!? There are just too many signs that say "stupid, stupid, stupid".

Whatever, I grow weary of this "argument". If this really happened, then I applaud her for her bravery, but reprimand her for her naivete and brashness. If this didn't happen, then she's smart.



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In America, the loser does NOT have to pay the winner's legal fees, barring a few certain circumstances. My girlfriend is a lawyer, is sitting right next to me, and I'll take her word for it.




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The Ghost of RubangB said:
theprof00 said:
izaaz101 said:

Hey, her board goes from "HOPA" to "HPOA".....

That was quite creative and funny (regardless of its authenticity).


I dunno, she's little more than a HPOA.

The smart thing to do would have been to sue, not quit without notice, not slandering her boss without evidence, etc etc... if even the job existed in the first place. Plus, WTF is a garbage dispenser? Is she an idiot? Not witty at all.

Check out this:
http://www.theboredninja.com/pictures/lost-camera/

proving once again that men are funny and women always need gender to be funny.

Her joke was way funnier than the camera joke, you sexist jerk.  She outed a FarmVille player.  This could be the next big way to out people.

It's not her fault that society only pays attention to funny women when they're HP'soA.

Sexist? What? I love women! XD

but what's so hard about outing farmville players? Everything they do in farmville shows up on facebook. You don't even need an "office snitch" to tell you that.

And that is entirely untrue. Some of the most famous female comedians don't rely on feminine humor or looks. Wand Sykes, Ellen, Margaret Cho, Whoopie. I was being facetious.



rocketpig said:

In America, the loser does NOT have to pay the winner's legal fees, barring a few certain circumstances. My girlfriend is a lawyer, is sitting right next to me, and I'll take her word for it.

Ah ok, so America has gotten to the point where people can just do stuff or say whatever they want because others are too lazy to do anything about it. Sure.

Anyway, Chive got in touch with the girl and are going to have an interview tomorrow so let's see what she has to say about the whole thing and whether she mentions the company name or not. If you're correct she won't have a problem saying what company it was, right?



Actually, yes. That's not far from the truth. You can go ahead and argue it but I'll take my girlfriend's word for it since she's finished about eight years of schooling, passed the bar, and is now a law clerk for a judge and writes about the law and advises rulings for the judge on a daily basis.

Whether she mentions the company name or not has nothing to do with what we're talking about here and it proves nothing. On both sides of this case, there simply isn't enough relevant fact to do much of anything for or against either other party. What will the boss sue for? You can't sue for speculative damages. Therefore, he has to prove that her email caused him financial harm (ie. line-by-line breakdown of damages, not "I think I've lost clients"). Public embarrassment is not a legitimate reason to sue in the eyes of the court. In her case, she has to prove that he called her a HPOA, which will be incredibly difficult because it's her word versus his and the third party on the phone will probably deny having heard it just to stay out of the mess.

Who wins from a lawsuit stemming from this farce? Short answer, no one.

Why do you think the Enquirer gets away with writing the shit it does? It's just too bloody hard to go after them and prove with a dollar amount the damages that have been wrought.




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err?

why would she get sued? for saying his playtime?

didn't you read that it came from a program the guy installed in every computer to monitor internet activity... she just had to print the log to have a safety net against him.He could forge them sure... but that leaves traces... and would be complicated for 30 hours a week's worth of logs (plus he'd have to forge every previous weeks.... if he just deletes that's worse even).

Sure the company could sue her for releasing confidential info... about a guy spending 30 hours a week playing or trading on personal accounts? I don't think so.

 

and since when is hopa a bad word?

 



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rocketpig said:

Actually, yes. That's not far from the truth. You can go ahead and argue it but I'll take my girlfriend's word for it since she's finished about eight years of schooling, passed the bar, and is now a law clerk for a judge and writes about the law and advises rulings for the judge on a daily basis.

Whether she mentions the company name or not has nothing to do with what we're talking about here and it proves nothing. On both sides of this case, there simply isn't enough relevant fact to do much of anything for or against either other party. What will the boss sue for? You can't sue for speculative damages. Therefore, he has to prove that her email caused him financial harm (ie. line-by-line breakdown of damages, not "I think I've lost clients"). Public embarrassment is not a legitimate reason to sue in the eyes of the court. In her case, she has to prove that he called her a HPOA, which will be incredibly difficult because it's her word versus his and the third party on the phone will probably deny having heard it just to stay out of the mess.

Who wins from a lawsuit stemming from this farce? Short answer, no one.

Why do you think the Enquirer gets away with writing the shit it does? It's just too bloody hard to go after them and prove with a dollar amount the damages that have been wrought.

Well then 'Merica is completely ridiculous.

Well at least one damage is quantifiable. The cost of training a new employee, and the loss of production for having a missing employee.

My point with what I said previously is that, she should not be afraid to give the name of the company if this story is true and what you say is true. If the company does exist, and she did this knowing that they couldn't do anything about it, then she must have legal knowledge or support, and so would know that she could name the company. I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to do this kind of thing without knowing what the possible repurcussions would be (and even if she is, she must have talked to some people about it before she did it, who would warn her to be careful). Logically, if the story is true, she can name the company, if it's not, she won't name the company. (Based on what you've said the law allows)



Hephaestos said:

err?

why would she get sued? for saying his playtime?

didn't you read that it came from a program the guy installed in every computer to monitor internet activity... she just had to print the log to have a safety net against him.He could forge them sure... but that leaves traces... and would be complicated for 30 hours a week's worth of logs (plus he'd have to forge every previous weeks.... if he just deletes that's worse even).

Sure the company could sue her for releasing confidential info... about a guy spending 30 hours a week playing or trading on personal accounts? I don't think so.

 

and since when is hopa a bad word?

 

I would think it has more to do with the office people than the public. I would think the office would be really upset to know that the manager screwed around for 30 hours a week, and possibly cause turnover, which is very costly to a company.



I like her.



theprof00 said:
rocketpig said:

Actually, yes. That's not far from the truth. You can go ahead and argue it but I'll take my girlfriend's word for it since she's finished about eight years of schooling, passed the bar, and is now a law clerk for a judge and writes about the law and advises rulings for the judge on a daily basis.

Whether she mentions the company name or not has nothing to do with what we're talking about here and it proves nothing. On both sides of this case, there simply isn't enough relevant fact to do much of anything for or against either other party. What will the boss sue for? You can't sue for speculative damages. Therefore, he has to prove that her email caused him financial harm (ie. line-by-line breakdown of damages, not "I think I've lost clients"). Public embarrassment is not a legitimate reason to sue in the eyes of the court. In her case, she has to prove that he called her a HPOA, which will be incredibly difficult because it's her word versus his and the third party on the phone will probably deny having heard it just to stay out of the mess.

Who wins from a lawsuit stemming from this farce? Short answer, no one.

Why do you think the Enquirer gets away with writing the shit it does? It's just too bloody hard to go after them and prove with a dollar amount the damages that have been wrought.

Well then 'Merica is completely ridiculous.

Well at least one damage is quantifiable. The cost of training a new employee, and the loss of production for having a missing employee.

My point with what I said previously is that, she should not be afraid to give the name of the company if this story is true and what you say is true. If the company does exist, and she did this knowing that they couldn't do anything about it, then she must have legal knowledge or support, and so would know that she could name the company. I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to do this kind of thing without knowing what the possible repurcussions would be (and even if she is, she must have talked to some people about it before she did it, who would warn her to be careful). Logically, if the story is true, she can name the company, if it's not, she won't name the company. (Based on what you've said the law allows)

At Will Employment negates any chance of winning a lawsuit for training a new employee unless a contract was involved and it specified working for a specified time period (and they usually have out clauses). As an employee, she can leave because she doesn't like her bosses' name or because a coworker smells like patchouli or because they play really bad music in the elevators. As an employer, they can fire her for almost any reason that doesn't involve discrimination of some kind (handicap, gender, sexual preference, etc).

My point is that even if she doesn't name the company, it could be for reasons entirely unrelated to a potential lawsuit so it proves nothing.




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