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kowenicki said:

Halo Reach... biggest and best game of the year!

Truer words have never been spoken!

Looks like Halo Reach actually might have a shot at outselling MW2....I sure hope it does!



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flacomeza said:
blue7x7 said:

Wow at Halo Reach numbers it seems it will outsell Modern Warfare 2 after all and look at those Kinect numbers almost 8,000 pre orders in a week with 14 weeks to go and advertising hasn't kicked  in yet it's giong to do better than a lot of people think it is. Considering all the hate it seems to get for the games it has and the price it's seems like it's going to do good.

Mafia II numbers are kinda low I didn't even know it was coming out in 4 weeks. I'm glad Fable 3 is doing great as well it seems at this rate it will outsell Gran Turismo 5.

Dude..do you really, really, really think there is any chance of FABLE 3 outselling GT5? Please be honest...PLEASE!!!

 

Well by looks of the pre order numbers it looks like it has a chance and like seece said I'm only talking about America numbers not world wide. It's almost doing double the pre order numbers Gran Turismo 5 is doing so it's possible that it might outsell it or sell the same as Gran Turismo 5 Of course I could be wrong.

Just look at the pre order numbers for Gran Turismo 5 this week they are lower than last weeks numbers the pre order numbers for GT5 seem to fluctuate from 6K to 10K every week it doesn't seem to be going upwards. While Fable 3's numbers seem to be only going upwards lately.

 

 

 

 



steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Reach numbers are just crazy. The damn advertising hasen't even started yet and it is nearing a million pre-orders with like 2 months to go almost...The next few weeks are going to be interesting to see if it can over-take MW2 or not.

And GT5 doing a bit average really. A lot of games are now about to over-take it with the same time to go i.e Fable 3.

really? a lot of games? Fable 3 is 40k behind with 1 less week, it gained 6k this week. thats 6.5 weeks to overtake it. Granted i know its not going to be linear but its not making leaps and bounds over GT by any means. The next game PS3 Fallout is 12 weeks out and 50k behind GT and GT had mor epreorders this week. Same with Force Unleashed. Youre just making sweeping generalizations that arent even remotely true.

We all get it, you want to downplay GT, but im guessing based on my bolded quote you simply just say things without having the slightest bit of evidence to defend your reasoning on the matter. I mean, i dont even know a lot about GT sales history, but just based on you saying "A LOT OF GAMES ARE NOW ABOUT TO OVERTAKE IT WITH THE SAME TIME TO GO" when all i have to do is scroll up to see thats utter bullshit, im not going to buy your "reasoning" on why its average, when a racing sim is trending with a CoD game in arguably its weakest region.

Wow talk about over-reacting.

So by me saying other games were closing in on GT5 which makes GT5 numbers seem rather average you got all that?!

FF online,Fable,Fallout,star wars, assasins creed etc etc are all doing roughly what GT5 is each week.

Not quite sure how that clasifies as "bullshit" when the numbers are there to see and see that i am right?

As for the other stuff about regions and that, wow you really went off on one. All i said is that it was doing average, which it is. But yet from that we get an essay on how it isn't it's popular region etc.. which shows that you feel you have to defend it.

But you seem to be a good fortune teller, you can predict what is going to happen. But just to correct you a little to show that maybe you don't quite know what your talking about. You mention GT5 is tracking alongside MW2 on PS3. If you look at MW2 numbers on PS3 for the first week your see that they are less then the first week for GT4 in the US. Meaning if it continues to track at MW2 rate it will be a lot lower then it's previous games opening week. With all your talk you would expect it to beat those numbers right. Because selling less is considerd better in your world yeah?

I am happy to make a bet with you right now. Put your rep on the line. You seem to think you talk the talk, now let's see if you can walk the walk. I bet you right now GT5 worldwide figures for it's first week will not beat 2.5m units sold sold. Meaning the series will have declined since GT4 was released. You claim the rest of the world is hyped about it etc.. that US sales should not be looked into too much as everywhere else is where it will sell. I live in Europe and i can tell your right now that times have changed. People don't think of the game in the same way anymore.

So how about it? You are super confident that i am wrong. You "Know" that it is going to sell xyz in Europe making it on par with certain games. If i am wrong i will leave Vgc for good. If you are wrong you put in your sig "don't listen to me, all i do is talk shit". Deal? What have you got to lose, as you are so sure your right?



Hyruken said:
steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Reach numbers are just crazy. The damn advertising hasen't even started yet and it is nearing a million pre-orders with like 2 months to go almost...The next few weeks are going to be interesting to see if it can over-take MW2 or not.

And GT5 doing a bit average really. A lot of games are now about to over-take it with the same time to go i.e Fable 3.

really? a lot of games? Fable 3 is 40k behind with 1 less week, it gained 6k this week. thats 6.5 weeks to overtake it. Granted i know its not going to be linear but its not making leaps and bounds over GT by any means. The next game PS3 Fallout is 12 weeks out and 50k behind GT and GT had mor epreorders this week. Same with Force Unleashed. Youre just making sweeping generalizations that arent even remotely true.

We all get it, you want to downplay GT, but im guessing based on my bolded quote you simply just say things without having the slightest bit of evidence to defend your reasoning on the matter. I mean, i dont even know a lot about GT sales history, but just based on you saying "A LOT OF GAMES ARE NOW ABOUT TO OVERTAKE IT WITH THE SAME TIME TO GO" when all i have to do is scroll up to see thats utter bullshit, im not going to buy your "reasoning" on why its average, when a racing sim is trending with a CoD game in arguably its weakest region.

Wow talk about over-reacting.

So by me saying other games were closing in on GT5 which makes GT5 numbers seem rather average you got all that?!

FF online,Fable,Fallout,star wars, assasins creed etc etc are all doing roughly what GT5 is each week.

Not quite sure how that clasifies as "bullshit" when the numbers are there to see and see that i am right?

As for the other stuff about regions and that, wow you really went off on one. All i said is that it was doing average, which it is. But yet from that we get an essay on how it isn't it's popular region etc.. which shows that you feel you have to defend it.

But you seem to be a good fortune teller, you can predict what is going to happen. But just to correct you a little to show that maybe you don't quite know what your talking about. You mention GT5 is tracking alongside MW2 on PS3. If you look at MW2 numbers on PS3 for the first week your see that they are less then the first week for GT4 in the US. Meaning if it continues to track at MW2 rate it will be a lot lower then it's previous games opening week. With all your talk you would expect it to beat those numbers right. Because selling less is considerd better in your world yeah?

I am happy to make a bet with you right now. Put your rep on the line. You seem to think you talk the talk, now let's see if you can walk the walk. I bet you right now GT5 worldwide figures for it's first week will not beat 2.5m units sold sold. Meaning the series will have declined since GT4 was released. You claim the rest of the world is hyped about it etc.. that US sales should not be looked into too much as everywhere else is where it will sell. I live in Europe and i can tell your right now that times have changed. People don't think of the game in the same way anymore.

So how about it? You are super confident that i am wrong. You "Know" that it is going to sell xyz in Europe making it on par with certain games. If i am wrong i will leave Vgc for good. If you are wrong you put in your sig "don't listen to me, all i do is talk shit". Deal? What have you got to lose, as you are so sure your right?

Your statement about other games overtaking GT5 is generic in nature, you are assuming that GT5 is going to remain static.  I don't think its an overaction, it just how you quietly tried to go out of your own way to somehow downplay GT5 potential sales while elevating other potential game sales.



Barozi said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Barozi said:
darthdevidem01 said:

FFXIV (PC) vs FFXIII (PS3)

WOW @ FFXIV

FFXIV is going to PWN FF11 sales.


you stole mah FFXIII list >:(

nah j/k

 

FFXIV numbers are really impressive

LOL yeah I stole the numbers you had for FFXIII

Would've been more accurate if we had combined PS360 figures but I can't be bothered to go back on the chart now!!

oh I can !

EDIT: previous list updated

THANKS!

I can use the new numbers from next week now!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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Looks like Halo Reach is as unstopable as Halo 3 and the media blitz hasn't even really started. I wonder what the preorders will look like after MS unleashes it's full force of marketing.



Train wreck said:
Hyruken said:
steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Reach numbers are just crazy. The damn advertising hasen't even started yet and it is nearing a million pre-orders with like 2 months to go almost...The next few weeks are going to be interesting to see if it can over-take MW2 or not.

And GT5 doing a bit average really. A lot of games are now about to over-take it with the same time to go i.e Fable 3.

really? a lot of games? Fable 3 is 40k behind with 1 less week, it gained 6k this week. thats 6.5 weeks to overtake it. Granted i know its not going to be linear but its not making leaps and bounds over GT by any means. The next game PS3 Fallout is 12 weeks out and 50k behind GT and GT had mor epreorders this week. Same with Force Unleashed. Youre just making sweeping generalizations that arent even remotely true.

We all get it, you want to downplay GT, but im guessing based on my bolded quote you simply just say things without having the slightest bit of evidence to defend your reasoning on the matter. I mean, i dont even know a lot about GT sales history, but just based on you saying "A LOT OF GAMES ARE NOW ABOUT TO OVERTAKE IT WITH THE SAME TIME TO GO" when all i have to do is scroll up to see thats utter bullshit, im not going to buy your "reasoning" on why its average, when a racing sim is trending with a CoD game in arguably its weakest region.

Wow talk about over-reacting.

So by me saying other games were closing in on GT5 which makes GT5 numbers seem rather average you got all that?!

FF online,Fable,Fallout,star wars, assasins creed etc etc are all doing roughly what GT5 is each week.

Not quite sure how that clasifies as "bullshit" when the numbers are there to see and see that i am right?

As for the other stuff about regions and that, wow you really went off on one. All i said is that it was doing average, which it is. But yet from that we get an essay on how it isn't it's popular region etc.. which shows that you feel you have to defend it.

But you seem to be a good fortune teller, you can predict what is going to happen. But just to correct you a little to show that maybe you don't quite know what your talking about. You mention GT5 is tracking alongside MW2 on PS3. If you look at MW2 numbers on PS3 for the first week your see that they are less then the first week for GT4 in the US. Meaning if it continues to track at MW2 rate it will be a lot lower then it's previous games opening week. With all your talk you would expect it to beat those numbers right. Because selling less is considerd better in your world yeah?

I am happy to make a bet with you right now. Put your rep on the line. You seem to think you talk the talk, now let's see if you can walk the walk. I bet you right now GT5 worldwide figures for it's first week will not beat 2.5m units sold sold. Meaning the series will have declined since GT4 was released. You claim the rest of the world is hyped about it etc.. that US sales should not be looked into too much as everywhere else is where it will sell. I live in Europe and i can tell your right now that times have changed. People don't think of the game in the same way anymore.

So how about it? You are super confident that i am wrong. You "Know" that it is going to sell xyz in Europe making it on par with certain games. If i am wrong i will leave Vgc for good. If you are wrong you put in your sig "don't listen to me, all i do is talk shit". Deal? What have you got to lose, as you are so sure your right?

Your statement about other games overtaking GT5 is generic in nature, you are assuming that GT5 is going to remain static.  I don't think its an overaction, it just how you quietly tried to go out of your own way to somehow downplay GT5 potential sales while elevating other potential game sales.


But then by that logic you are saying other games will remain static.... Bit hypocritical isn't it?

As i said there is no-way to guess at what is going to happen. We can only go off things that are happening right now. And right now a fair few games are doing around the same numbers per week as GT5. Some of those games are not AAA titles. Thus if you compare GT5 pre-orders to other titles current weekly numbers you see they are average.

He simply didn't like the fact that someone pointed that out. We have a long long way to go. GT5 numbers could pick up and they will pick up. But if people are going to cry everytime someone points out that GT5 looks set to sell less then it's predacessor then they shouldn't respond to it. if they can't take criticism then they shouldn't be here or replying to people in the way they do.



Hyruken said:
Train wreck said:
Hyruken said:
steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Reach numbers are just crazy. The damn advertising hasen't even started yet and it is nearing a million pre-orders with like 2 months to go almost...The next few weeks are going to be interesting to see if it can over-take MW2 or not.

And GT5 doing a bit average really. A lot of games are now about to over-take it with the same time to go i.e Fable 3.

really? a lot of games? Fable 3 is 40k behind with 1 less week, it gained 6k this week. thats 6.5 weeks to overtake it. Granted i know its not going to be linear but its not making leaps and bounds over GT by any means. The next game PS3 Fallout is 12 weeks out and 50k behind GT and GT had mor epreorders this week. Same with Force Unleashed. Youre just making sweeping generalizations that arent even remotely true.

We all get it, you want to downplay GT, but im guessing based on my bolded quote you simply just say things without having the slightest bit of evidence to defend your reasoning on the matter. I mean, i dont even know a lot about GT sales history, but just based on you saying "A LOT OF GAMES ARE NOW ABOUT TO OVERTAKE IT WITH THE SAME TIME TO GO" when all i have to do is scroll up to see thats utter bullshit, im not going to buy your "reasoning" on why its average, when a racing sim is trending with a CoD game in arguably its weakest region.

Wow talk about over-reacting.

So by me saying other games were closing in on GT5 which makes GT5 numbers seem rather average you got all that?!

FF online,Fable,Fallout,star wars, assasins creed etc etc are all doing roughly what GT5 is each week.

Not quite sure how that clasifies as "bullshit" when the numbers are there to see and see that i am right?

As for the other stuff about regions and that, wow you really went off on one. All i said is that it was doing average, which it is. But yet from that we get an essay on how it isn't it's popular region etc.. which shows that you feel you have to defend it.

But you seem to be a good fortune teller, you can predict what is going to happen. But just to correct you a little to show that maybe you don't quite know what your talking about. You mention GT5 is tracking alongside MW2 on PS3. If you look at MW2 numbers on PS3 for the first week your see that they are less then the first week for GT4 in the US. Meaning if it continues to track at MW2 rate it will be a lot lower then it's previous games opening week. With all your talk you would expect it to beat those numbers right. Because selling less is considerd better in your world yeah?

I am happy to make a bet with you right now. Put your rep on the line. You seem to think you talk the talk, now let's see if you can walk the walk. I bet you right now GT5 worldwide figures for it's first week will not beat 2.5m units sold sold. Meaning the series will have declined since GT4 was released. You claim the rest of the world is hyped about it etc.. that US sales should not be looked into too much as everywhere else is where it will sell. I live in Europe and i can tell your right now that times have changed. People don't think of the game in the same way anymore.

So how about it? You are super confident that i am wrong. You "Know" that it is going to sell xyz in Europe making it on par with certain games. If i am wrong i will leave Vgc for good. If you are wrong you put in your sig "don't listen to me, all i do is talk shit". Deal? What have you got to lose, as you are so sure your right?

Your statement about other games overtaking GT5 is generic in nature, you are assuming that GT5 is going to remain static.  I don't think its an overaction, it just how you quietly tried to go out of your own way to somehow downplay GT5 potential sales while elevating other potential game sales.


But then by that logic you are saying other games will remain static.... Bit hypocritical isn't it?

As i said there is no-way to guess at what is going to happen. We can only go off things that are happening right now. And right now a fair few games are doing around the same numbers per week as GT5. Some of those games are not AAA titles. Thus if you compare GT5 pre-orders to other titles current weekly numbers you see they are average.

He simply didn't like the fact that someone pointed that out. We have a long long way to go. GT5 numbers could pick up and they will pick up. But if people are going to cry everytime someone points out that GT5 looks set to sell less then it's predacessor then they shouldn't respond to it. if they can't take criticism then they shouldn't be here or replying to people in the way they do.


Agreed and agreed. Especially with the whole "if people are going to cry everytime someone points that GT5 might sell less than its predecessor." But I will like to point out that people's behavior and actions can be mapped out and accurately predicted. I still stand behind my prediction that GT5 will sell 8.5-9 million lifetime. Getting close to 10 million but just not quite getting there. That is till the next GT game launches within that timeframe. 



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when will GT5 spark the fire, seems <10K is little low for suct a Gigaton Franchise.

but maybe racing games is in decline in general.

 

next 2 week maybe halo reach will have 1 mil preorder.



Why is GT5 being compared to totally unrelated genres? Is it purely for the purpose of suggesting GT5 is gonna bomb? FM2 and GT4 sold almost identical numbers in Americas, soooooo

 

 

Gran Turismo 5 FM3 NFS: Shift
30 1,616 / 63,500 - -
29 1,816 / 65,316 - -
28 1,682 / 66,998 - -
27 1,387 / 68,385 - -
26 202 / 68,587 - -
25 1,294 / 69,881 - -
24 1,278 / 71,159 - -
23 1,825 / 72,984 - -
22 2,007 / 74,991 - -
21 833 / 75,824 - -
20 3,547 / 79,371 - -
19 9,587 / 88,958 - -
18 7,340 / 96,298 - -
17 10,092 / 106,390 - -
16 8,135 / 114,525 - -
15  9,098 / 123,623 - -
14 7,455 / 131,078  - -
13   - -
12   - -
11   - -
10   ??? / 37,071 -
9   4,086 / 41,157 -
8   5,999 / 47,156 -
7   6,788 / 53,944 -
6   7,641 / 61,585 -
5   7,913 / 69,498 -
4   10,853 / 80,351 ??? / 11,353 (PS3)
3   13,691 / 94,042 1,741 / 13,094 (PS3)
2   18,364 / 112,406 5,776 / 30,511 (PS360)
1   30,974 / 143,380 9,674 / 40,185 (PS360)

I like this chart better.



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