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Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.



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what freedom is gained from intentionally showering civilians with rockets.

what freedom is gained from by kidnapping and murder soldiers in israel.

what freedom is gained by threatening to steal natural gas(or threatening to murder someone who wants to use their own).

what freedom is gained by suicide bombing jewish cultural centers.

what freedom is gained by murdering israelis civilians in other countries

 

the only freedom hezbollah brings to lebanon is their bloody boot heel. 



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MrBubbles said:

what freedom is gained from intentionally showering civilians with prosperous bombs.

what freedom is gained from by kidnapping and murder soldiers in Lebanon, Syria or in the Gaza strip

what freedom is gained by prohibiting Muslims to pray at mosque Al Aqsa

what freedom is gained when Israel actions are appeased by the western nations

The only freedom Israel has brought is the freedom to live in fear.





"Life is but a gentle death. Fate is but a sickness that results in extinction and in the midst of all the uncertainty, lies resolve."

Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.



Slimebeast said:
superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:

This is not acceptable Israel managed its own border, within its border. Israel should retaliate hard.


That would be stupid. Too many deaths already for an obvious mistake. Israel already presented its evidence and there is no doubt Lebenon wouldn't do anything even if it weren't at fault due to their own internal issues.

Best option is to just walk away.

I'm not convinced it was an obvious mistake. I read somewhere that it may have been a delibarate provocation by the Lebanese army just to draw attention to external threats and away from current internal issues. I'm not sure what's going on politically in Lebanon right at this time and if that theory actually makes sense though.

But yeah, walk away is what I think Israel will do. This will settle down in a couple of days.


Yeah and I read somewhere Isreal crossed into the lebanese territory guns blazing killing a baby Rhino. In other words, read anything about this topic with a huge grain of salt.



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Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

(2)They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

(1)Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.

(1)  In total, between 1,100-1,400[84] Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed in the 22-day war. (Wikipedia)

I think when you look at it this way you can see you were the aggressors, children, women, even babies have died (all Palestinian) when you open your eyes stop being soooo narrow minded you can see the whole picture.

(2) For the Arab- Israel it could be said at 1948 Britain and other nations were tying the strings in favour of zionist agendas.


All am saying Israelis (Jews) and Palestinians (Muslims) had a time where they literally did coincide in peace of course certain blips obstructed that.



"Life is but a gentle death. Fate is but a sickness that results in extinction and in the midst of all the uncertainty, lies resolve."

Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.

wrong,

Israel's illegal creation by a racist western bloc in 1948 ignited the prewarned military conflict.

Every action on every side has things that build up the points of views of anyone. The only real solution is to accept that even though Israel was created against various promises and laws, it still exists as a soveriegn nation and Israel as a nation must accept international law and vacate the occupied territories so a Palestine can rightfully exist as well.

Problem is the trenches have been dug so deep in many circles that it becomes an impossibility.

As a person who minored in Middle East history, married a Palestinian woman, is Muslim; I actually think a complete anexation of WB/Gaza by Israel where all Palestinians were given immediate full citizenship is the only resolution that really makes any logical sense.

Granted, it wouldn't be too long before Arabs were back to majority control of the entire region, but at least it would be in a clearly democratic free nation.



Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.

Yeah, palestinians must be reaalllyy happy that Israel made Gaza Strip a prison camp!

Do you really think that palestinians should thank Israel after Israel killed thousands of palestinian children?!

Israel has the most racist government in existence.



superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.

wrong,

Israel's illegal creation by a racist western bloc in 1948 ignited the prewarned military conflict.

Every action on every side has things that build up the points of views of anyone. The only real solution is to accept that even though Israel was created against various promises and laws, it still exists as a soveriegn nation and Israel as a nation must accept international law and vacate the occupied territories so a Palestine can rightfully exist as well.

Problem is the trenches have been dug so deep in many circles that it becomes an impossibility.

As a person who minored in Middle East history, married a Palestinian woman, is Muslim; I actually think a complete anexation of WB/Gaza by Israel where all Palestinians were given immediate full citizenship is the only resolution that really makes any logical sense.

Granted, it wouldn't be too long before Arabs were back to majority control of the entire region, but at least it would be in a clearly democratic free nation.

I'm glad someone finally said it. Simply put, the West felt bad that they turned a blind eye to Hilter slaughtering millions of Jews and decided to make up for it by stealing Palestine from the Palestinians and giving it to the Jews. Two wrongs don't make a right.



superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:
superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:

This is not acceptable Israel managed its own border, within its border. Israel should retaliate hard.


That would be stupid. Too many deaths already for an obvious mistake. Israel already presented its evidence and there is no doubt Lebenon wouldn't do anything even if it weren't at fault due to their own internal issues.

Best option is to just walk away.

I'm not convinced it was an obvious mistake. I read somewhere that it may have been a delibarate provocation by the Lebanese army just to draw attention to external threats and away from current internal issues. I'm not sure what's going on politically in Lebanon right at this time and if that theory actually makes sense though.

But yeah, walk away is what I think Israel will do. This will settle down in a couple of days.


Yeah and I read somewhere Isreal crossed into the lebanese territory guns blazing killing a baby Rhino. In other words, read anything about this topic with a huge grain of salt.

it isnt wholly unbelievable actually that it was really an ambush by the lebanese military.  the idea being to show that they are capable of defending lebanon and its interests, making an armed hezbollah redundant and unnecessary.



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"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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