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mrstickball on 04 December 2007

Sigh...


Doesn't anyone remember that from the beginning of the Xbox Live service for the X360, this was supposed to happen, but got delayed?

This has been a very, very long time coming. Its absolutely no suprise to me.

I you are arguing "it's gimping silver service!" but it's not. It's not like they are removing the service....Just delaying free demos a week for games.

It's not really a bad idea - when a demo comes out, Xbox Live runs at a snail's pace, slowing everything from downloads, to games down half of the time. If you can stagger the "release" of high-end demos (like AC6's demo, that had 500,000 demos it's first week....That's a ton of bandwidth), it will allow both gold and silver accounts better speeds to the same content.



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sinha on 04 December 2007

Gold members pay, they should obviously be the top priority.
Anyone who has a problem with that can always pay 13 cents a day for Gold.



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It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

ameratsu on 04 December 2007

As a future x360 owner, I disagree with reducing the functionality of a free service (in this case timed content) in order to bolster the functionality of a paid service. i've seen it done before elsewhere and it annoys me every time. The right way would of been to add servers and give gold subscribers faster download speeds. Instead they reduced the functionality of the free service to make the paid service seem better.

I really wonder how developers feel about this.



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Smash_Brother on 04 December 2007

From a dev perspective, this is one more week to get demos, videos and other updates into the hands of my potential customers/customers.

As a customer, it makes me take a long, hard look at PC gaming and why it'll still be around for years to come.

I'm lucky enough to be in a house which already has a gold account or two in it so I pay nothing, but that still sucks for people who don't have the cash for a gold account. 



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ssj12 on 04 December 2007

thank god the PSN is free and grants instant access.



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sinha on 04 December 2007
ssj12 said:
thank god the PSN is free and grants instant access.

Yeah thank god because all those people who paid $600 for their console can't afford an extra 13 cents a day.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

rocketpig on 04 December 2007

Stickball, good point about speed. At first I thought this was kinda cheap but as a Gold member, the possibility of Live not taking a shit every time a major release hits will be nice.




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ameratsu on 04 December 2007
sinha said:
ssj12 said:
thank god the PSN is free and grants instant access.

Yeah thank god because all those people who paid $600 for their console can't afford an extra 13 cents a day.


You want to spin it that way, i'll spin it the other way. Xbox live will cost you $250 during an assumed 5 year lifespan. That 13 cents a day bullshit sounds like a best buy employee trying to sell an extended warranty to some oblivious customer.

 



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kn on 04 December 2007

I guess I'll just have to wait a week. I've never been gold.... I'm not really into online and I most certainly don't think this is a bad idea. Silver members may complain, but they are paying nothing for the service. They can download anything that gold members can and I'd be irritated if I was gold... Fine by me and I'm a 360 fan...



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sinha on 04 December 2007
ameratsu said:
sinha said:
ssj12 said:
thank god the PSN is free and grants instant access.

Yeah thank god because all those people who paid $600 for their console can't afford an extra 13 cents a day.


You want to spin it that way, i'll spin it the other way. Xbox live will cost you $250 during an assumed 5 year lifespan. That 13 cents a day bullshit sounds like a best buy employee trying to sell an extended warranty to some oblivious customer.

 


Yes it will cost that much, and no one has to pay it unless they think it's worth it.  And yet it seems to be doing pretty well.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick