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Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.



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okr said:

Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.

Not seeing any games that isn't catered to causuals for kinect 



unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:

Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.

Not seeing any games that isn't catered to causuals for kinect 

Dance Central, Child of Eden, Fable III, Forza.



I think it's fair to say that Kincet does work right, we just have to adjust to the way it wa built.

I don't think kinect was designed to be used in a large arena, but for living rooms and spacing is important.  Maybe it's a drawback for Kinect, but it will have it's advantages as well. 

Move is more like Wiimote so let's compare them two, but kinect is of different concept that we just need to get used to.

I'm sure the games will play well a it is designed. 

I keep going back and forth and rading all these threads is helping me to think it over - and now i've decided to just go ahead and purchases it



okr said:
unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:

Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.

Not seeing any games that isn't catered to causuals for kinect 

Dance Central, Child of Eden, Fable III, Forza.

How the hell is Dance Central not targeted at casuals? Seriously do you ever think, Child of Eden is a rail shooter, I personally think those are pretty much casual only as for fable III and Forza they aren't going to work well enough to play the game with Kinect well it's not really fair to say that about Fable III but racing has been shown to be a bust with Kinect, and the games aren't really kinect games same with Child of Eden for that matter but alot more so with forza and Fable I guarantee Kinect isn't going to be usable to play through the whole game 



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Coca-Cola said:

I think it's fair to say that Kincet does work right, we just have to adjust to the way it wa built.

I don't think kinect was designed to be used in a large arena, but for living rooms and spacing is important.  Maybe it's a drawback for Kinect, but it will have it's advantages as well. 

Move is more like Wiimote so let's compare them two, but kinect is of different concept that we just need to get used to.

I'm sure the games will play well a it is designed. 

I keep going back and forth and rading all these threads is helping me to think it over - and now i've decided to just go ahead and purchases it

What are you talking about, it's safe to say kinect doesn't work, atleast not any better then eye toy or the wii cam that was sold with a dance game and kinect isn't something new, it's the eye toy with slightly better software and a hell of alot more hype/advertisement 



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unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:
unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:

Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.

Not seeing any games that isn't catered to causuals for kinect 

Dance Central, Child of Eden, Fable III, Forza.

How the hell is Dance Central not targeted at casuals? Seriously do you ever think, Child of Eden is a rail shooter, I personally think those are pretty much casual only as for fable III and Forza they aren't going to work well enough to play the game with Kinect well it's not really fair to say that about Fable III but racing has been shown to be a bust with Kinect, and the games aren't really kinect games same with Child of Eden for that matter but alot more so with forza and Fable I guarantee Kinect isn't going to be usable to play through the whole game 

As for the bolded part: I have to admit that I'm never sure about that, so I'm glad that you did the thinking here for me. Child of Eden is for casuals, Fable III and Forza won't work well enough with Kinect. Noted, thank you.

I knew that you would like my mention of Dance Central, which is clearly targeted at everyone (I realized that without thinking because it's a no-brainer)



9009pc said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

THAT is what the Kinect is. It's a new thing to grab the public-casual interest. It has games they can play. It is new and different. The specifics don't matter to them. They would never know the difference. To them, it's a toy. They are barely invested in it. To us, it's a way of life.

I think there is one reason why Kinect will eventually best Move. Move isn't a new thing meant to grab the public-casual interest. Move is a new version of an existing thing meant to improve upon the original.

this is where your whole argument fails imo. (edit: well not the argument just that I feel you are addressing the wrong problem) You, Microsoft and anyone else who is trying to promote Kinect for one reason or another either miss or ignore the one little fact that could make all the difference.

The fact that Kinect isn't original and is based on technology that has failed to deliver in the past. the problem with Kinect is not just the technical issues, but what it can actually do. if Microsoft can deliver on the games that they showed at e3 2009. if Microsoft can deliver an interface that is as natural and responsive as buttons, if Microsoft can get it's technology not just to enhance upon what its predecessor's have shown in the past but also overcome it's problems then I will accept that Kinect will win but from what was shown at e3 2010 this is not the case.

The technology can be hyped up to appear new and revolutionary but if it meets the same problems as it's predecessor'S and does not deliver on it's promises then the hype will only keep it going for so long. I hope Microsoft can pull this of because I loved the ps eye (ps3) and it's tech when it was released and nothing would please more in seeing this technology actual work the way Microsoft and Sony both demonstrated but I just don't see that happening :(

move has solved this problems by taking a step back and including the thing I and anyone who has interest in this technology was trying to get away from (but now seems to be where I was trying to get to), buttons. To me it makes a camera interface better than my wildest dreams could possible have came dreamt up.

it's on implementation where it matters most and we will have to wait for the releases to fully determine there fate, but I have and will enjoy learning what I can about them until then and after. 

We'll agree to disagree then. :)

I think that the technology, and the product itself doesn't matter in the slightest. I think that if the product delivers a new experience to casual consumers, no matter how great or terrible that experience may be, people will buy it. Especially if it's affordable, and if the software appeals to them. Microsoft is gearing its device to appear "new" to the vast majority of people, and its gearing its games and marketing towards casuals. The Playstation eye was and is a poorly marketed, poorly supported, and poorly implimented product. It was doomed to fail for all of those reasons. Kinect has none of those problems. The harware is excellently marketed, supported by 3rd parties, and completely integrated into the console dashboard.

Basically, I think that blaming the Playstation Eye's failure on its hardware and technology is rediculious. To the target audience for such devices, technology and graphics are not determining factors in the purchase. The basic premise of the eye and the kinect are sound for marketing purposes. What you are implying is that even if the Kinect did "work right" it wouldn't matter. I agree. It wouldn't matter one bit, however, if the machine doesn't "work right" it doesn't matter one bit either. The tech is not why this device will thrive or fail.

Also, I'm not trying to promote Kinect. In fact, I've done a pretty good job of buring it down in this thread, haven't I?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

okr said:
unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:
unknown_soul89 said:
okr said:

Now that I have the permission of an unknown_soul to buy Kinect if I want, something on topic from me:
I agree with Zen's post, with one exception though - I don't think that Kinect is meant just for the casual gamer.

Not seeing any games that isn't catered to causuals for kinect 

Dance Central, Child of Eden, Fable III, Forza.

How the hell is Dance Central not targeted at casuals? Seriously do you ever think, Child of Eden is a rail shooter, I personally think those are pretty much casual only as for fable III and Forza they aren't going to work well enough to play the game with Kinect well it's not really fair to say that about Fable III but racing has been shown to be a bust with Kinect, and the games aren't really kinect games same with Child of Eden for that matter but alot more so with forza and Fable I guarantee Kinect isn't going to be usable to play through the whole game 

As for the bolded part: I have to admit that I'm never sure about that, so I'm glad that you did the thinking here for me. Child of Eden is for casuals, Fable III and Forza won't work well enough with Kinect. Noted, thank you.

I knew that you would like my mention of Dance Central, which is clearly targeted at everyone (I realized that without thinking because it's a no-brainer)


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