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Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
FootballFan said:
kopstudent89 said:

You guys know that's just media exaggerating everything he says -.-

How so? Most things are direct quotes form the "great" man himself. He could be a comedian in his spare time.


Ah singling him out is just the way to hypnotize the people in thinking he's the only bad guy in this world. I don't even believe he's that bad, there are far worse than him

Just because there are worse people out there doesn't mean he isn't an authoritarian dictator who runs a thuggish theocracy which oppresses the freedom and will of the people.

Look I don't like Najad at all, i hate his policies and all that stuff. However he isn't the biggest dictator in the world, by far and wide. You dont see Iranians who oppose him dead on the street( and dont tell me you do, you get alooot of opposition voices in iran unlike other dictatorship countries in the region). However, other dictators who are worse get the full support of the west in contrast (Saudi is just one country out of many in the region). 

Oh btw the West do not oppose najad for his dictatorship, oh not at all. It's because they dont want him having nuclear resources(not even for generating power), but other countries can have that power. You cant do that, that is world dictatorship, and that's what is really happening 

 

Actually you do see Iranians dead on the street because of his police force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdEf0QRsLM&has_verified=1

This girl was shot by a sniper for attending the protest of Admadinejads rigged election results.  She was not even armed in any way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p_CV4fHRw

Iranian Police using force to break up protests, notice how they repeatedly beat a man who is not even fighting back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JK9WollPfI&feature=related

Iranian police using unnecessary force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pohCrHD-n4

Iran's police regularly shoots live rounds into crowds of people.

 

If Iran was only after nuclear power than they would have no problem accepting the nuclear resources we've offered them.  Ahmadinejad has refused this deal over and over (although has finally given in and will be negotiating.)  The solution that western countries offered gives Iran full power to develop nuclear facilities for energy usage, it just limits their ability to make nuclear weapons because they would not be able to enrich the uranium to a point at which it becomes useful for weaponry.  We also found out that Ahdmadinejad had been hiding nuclear facilities even from UN inspectors, we've found out through intelligence leaks (scientists have defected) that they have been attempting to Obtain UD3, aka uranium deuteride.  UD3 has only one known scientific purpose and that is as a trigger device for a nuclear weapon.

 

Now why would Iran refuse nuclear fuel that would only work for energy but not weapons, hide nuclear facilities, and obtain nuclear trigger devices?  The answer is simple, but I'll spell it out for you, Iran wants nuclear weapons and the west does not want Iran to have them.

Many westerners don't openly support other dictatorships, they just tolerate them because we can't run the world.  But Iran has been repeatedly crossing the line by calling for Death to America, death to Israel, and Death to the english while simultaneously attempting to develop nuclear weapons after stealing an election and oppressing his people with violent force.  That's why he gets attention.


thats just western propaganda by your zionist controlled media, you imperialist dog!

 

 

 

 

 

(this was a joke for those few who didnt realize)



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Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
FootballFan said:
kopstudent89 said:

You guys know that's just media exaggerating everything he says -.-

How so? Most things are direct quotes form the "great" man himself. He could be a comedian in his spare time.


Ah singling him out is just the way to hypnotize the people in thinking he's the only bad guy in this world. I don't even believe he's that bad, there are far worse than him

Just because there are worse people out there doesn't mean he isn't an authoritarian dictator who runs a thuggish theocracy which oppresses the freedom and will of the people.

Look I don't like Najad at all, i hate his policies and all that stuff. However he isn't the biggest dictator in the world, by far and wide. You dont see Iranians who oppose him dead on the street( and dont tell me you do, you get alooot of opposition voices in iran unlike other dictatorship countries in the region). However, other dictators who are worse get the full support of the west in contrast (Saudi is just one country out of many in the region). 

Oh btw the West do not oppose najad for his dictatorship, oh not at all. It's because they dont want him having nuclear resources(not even for generating power), but other countries can have that power. You cant do that, that is world dictatorship, and that's what is really happening 

 

Actually you do see Iranians dead on the street because of his police force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdEf0QRsLM&has_verified=1

This girl was shot by a sniper for attending the protest of Admadinejads rigged election results.  She was not even armed in any way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p_CV4fHRw

Iranian Police using force to break up protests, notice how they repeatedly beat a man who is not even fighting back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JK9WollPfI&feature=related

Iranian police using unnecessary force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pohCrHD-n4

Iran's police regularly shoots live rounds into crowds of people.

 

If Iran was only after nuclear power than they would have no problem accepting the nuclear resources we've offered them.  Ahmadinejad has refused this deal over and over (although has finally given in and will be negotiating.)  The solution that western countries offered gives Iran full power to develop nuclear facilities for energy usage, it just limits their ability to make nuclear weapons because they would not be able to enrich the uranium to a point at which it becomes useful for weaponry.  We also found out that Ahdmadinejad had been hiding nuclear facilities even from UN inspectors, we've found out through intelligence leaks (scientists have defected) that they have been attempting to Obtain UD3, aka uranium deuteride.  UD3 has only one known scientific purpose and that is as a trigger device for a nuclear weapon.

 

Now why would Iran refuse nuclear fuel that would only work for energy but not weapons, hide nuclear facilities, and obtain nuclear trigger devices?  The answer is simple, but I'll spell it out for you, Iran wants nuclear weapons and the west does not want Iran to have them.

Many westerners don't openly support other dictatorships, they just tolerate them because we can't run the world.  But Iran has been repeatedly crossing the line by calling for Death to America, death to Israel, and Death to the english while simultaneously attempting to develop nuclear weapons after stealing an election and oppressing his people with violent force.  That's why he gets attention.

Iran is a very barbaric country. Did you know they still cut off thieves fingers as a measure of punishment? What a disgusting/disgraceful society to live.



FootballFan said:
Armads said:

 

Actually you do see Iranians dead on the street because of his police force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdEf0QRsLM&has_verified=1

This girl was shot by a sniper for attending the protest of Admadinejads rigged election results.  She was not even armed in any way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p_CV4fHRw

Iranian Police using force to break up protests, notice how they repeatedly beat a man who is not even fighting back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JK9WollPfI&feature=related

Iranian police using unnecessary force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pohCrHD-n4

Iran's police regularly shoots live rounds into crowds of people.

 

If Iran was only after nuclear power than they would have no problem accepting the nuclear resources we've offered them.  Ahmadinejad has refused this deal over and over (although has finally given in and will be negotiating.)  The solution that western countries offered gives Iran full power to develop nuclear facilities for energy usage, it just limits their ability to make nuclear weapons because they would not be able to enrich the uranium to a point at which it becomes useful for weaponry.  We also found out that Ahdmadinejad had been hiding nuclear facilities even from UN inspectors, we've found out through intelligence leaks (scientists have defected) that they have been attempting to Obtain UD3, aka uranium deuteride.  UD3 has only one known scientific purpose and that is as a trigger device for a nuclear weapon.

 

Now why would Iran refuse nuclear fuel that would only work for energy but not weapons, hide nuclear facilities, and obtain nuclear trigger devices?  The answer is simple, but I'll spell it out for you, Iran wants nuclear weapons and the west does not want Iran to have them.

Many westerners don't openly support other dictatorships, they just tolerate them because we can't run the world.  But Iran has been repeatedly crossing the line by calling for Death to America, death to Israel, and Death to the english while simultaneously attempting to develop nuclear weapons after stealing an election and oppressing his people with violent force.  That's why he gets attention.

Iran is a very barbaric country. Did you know they still cut off thieves fingers as a measure of punishment? What a disgusting/disgraceful society to live.

do you want to know whats really wierd...they will hang gays but they provide money for people to have sex changes and they can legally live normal lives as their new gender.  iran almost has more sex changes than any other country in the world every year.



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FootballFan said:
Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
Armads said:
kopstudent89 said:
FootballFan said:
kopstudent89 said:

You guys know that's just media exaggerating everything he says -.-

How so? Most things are direct quotes form the "great" man himself. He could be a comedian in his spare time.


Ah singling him out is just the way to hypnotize the people in thinking he's the only bad guy in this world. I don't even believe he's that bad, there are far worse than him

Just because there are worse people out there doesn't mean he isn't an authoritarian dictator who runs a thuggish theocracy which oppresses the freedom and will of the people.

Look I don't like Najad at all, i hate his policies and all that stuff. However he isn't the biggest dictator in the world, by far and wide. You dont see Iranians who oppose him dead on the street( and dont tell me you do, you get alooot of opposition voices in iran unlike other dictatorship countries in the region). However, other dictators who are worse get the full support of the west in contrast (Saudi is just one country out of many in the region). 

Oh btw the West do not oppose najad for his dictatorship, oh not at all. It's because they dont want him having nuclear resources(not even for generating power), but other countries can have that power. You cant do that, that is world dictatorship, and that's what is really happening 

 

Actually you do see Iranians dead on the street because of his police force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdEf0QRsLM&has_verified=1

This girl was shot by a sniper for attending the protest of Admadinejads rigged election results.  She was not even armed in any way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p_CV4fHRw

Iranian Police using force to break up protests, notice how they repeatedly beat a man who is not even fighting back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JK9WollPfI&feature=related

Iranian police using unnecessary force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pohCrHD-n4

Iran's police regularly shoots live rounds into crowds of people.

 

If Iran was only after nuclear power than they would have no problem accepting the nuclear resources we've offered them.  Ahmadinejad has refused this deal over and over (although has finally given in and will be negotiating.)  The solution that western countries offered gives Iran full power to develop nuclear facilities for energy usage, it just limits their ability to make nuclear weapons because they would not be able to enrich the uranium to a point at which it becomes useful for weaponry.  We also found out that Ahdmadinejad had been hiding nuclear facilities even from UN inspectors, we've found out through intelligence leaks (scientists have defected) that they have been attempting to Obtain UD3, aka uranium deuteride.  UD3 has only one known scientific purpose and that is as a trigger device for a nuclear weapon.

 

Now why would Iran refuse nuclear fuel that would only work for energy but not weapons, hide nuclear facilities, and obtain nuclear trigger devices?  The answer is simple, but I'll spell it out for you, Iran wants nuclear weapons and the west does not want Iran to have them.

Many westerners don't openly support other dictatorships, they just tolerate them because we can't run the world.  But Iran has been repeatedly crossing the line by calling for Death to America, death to Israel, and Death to the english while simultaneously attempting to develop nuclear weapons after stealing an election and oppressing his people with violent force.  That's why he gets attention.

Iran is a very barbaric country. Did you know they still cut off thieves fingers as a measure of punishment? What a disgusting/disgraceful society to live.


Liverpool fan! awesome. Ok whatever, but singling out iran is wrong. Trust me i live here and there are faar worse who get the support of the west :S I do sometimes tend to get overemotional because well i live here! Now what happened in iran is far more complicated than what most think. Did they do some wrong? Sure they did and i hate and despise some of the things they did. I do believe iran before ahmadi najad was much more positive, and agree that something went too extreme and outa hand during this time. 

But let's look at Saudi for example, women cant drive although we're in the 21st century, or even go anywhere on their own. 4 million are discriminated against cause they're of a difference sect of islam, yet the West does nothing, or even says anything... that's hypocrisy for me. But it's illegal to even have phones with camera in saudi to show all what is wrong there.. is that the democracy some countries want?

Anyways i probably went too far, and sorry for causing any of this. But armads, there's alot missing from what you said, and crossing a line the US has put is not necessarily a correct line. Atomic bombs should be banned around the world cuz i believe it is the worst technology that has  been invented. But as long as some countries have that technology then we aint goin no where. Anyways im tired, so let's leave it there :) 



FootballFan said:
kopstudent89 said:

You guys know that's just media exaggerating everything he says -.-

How so? Most things are direct quotes form the "great" man himself. He could be a comedian in his spare time.


I'm just throwing this out there. It is literally possible to accuse anyone of holding any position if you fish out certain quotes. Heck, I reckon I could make slimebeast seem like Richard Dawkins, or Mafoo as a regular Joseph Stalin if I cherry picked certain quotes. And newspapers in the UK tend to do it a lot... Especially the Daily Mail.

That said, Ahmadinejad is not exactly what I would call a "nice guy", he is a bit of a brute.



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kopstudent89 said:


Liverpool fan! awesome. Ok whatever, but singling out iran is wrong. Trust me i live here and there are faar worse who get the support of the west :S I do sometimes tend to get overemotional because well i live here! Now what happened in iran is far more complicated than what most think. Did they do some wrong? Sure they did and i hate and despise some of the things they did. I do believe iran before ahmadi najad was much more positive, and agree that something went too extreme and outa hand during this time. 

But let's look at Saudi for example, women cant drive although we're in the 21st century, or even go anywhere on their own. 4 million are discriminated against cause they're of a difference sect of islam, yet the West does nothing, or even says anything... that's hypocrisy for me. But it's illegal to even have phones with camera in saudi to show all what is wrong there.. is that the democracy some countries want?

Anyways i probably went too far, and sorry for causing any of this. But armads, there's alot missing from what you said, and crossing a line the US has put is not necessarily a correct line. Atomic bombs should be banned around the world cuz i believe it is the worst technology that has  been invented. But as long as some countries have that technology then we aint goin no where. Anyways im tired, so let's leave it there :) 

Errr... I think it's time for you to delete some older posts. This thing was huge!



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Yes I actually agree with the poster a few up. It is strange how Iran gets singled out for various different reasons yet nobody goes near Saudi Arabia.



Ok. I could handle the sham elections and brutal oppression. I could handle the building nuclear weapons. I could handle the brutal threats to Israel.

But this is a step too far.



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There a time and a place to critique other dictators but this is not that. Lets not deflect. All dictators need to be attacked and satirised through discourse regarless of how terrible or not they are.

Just because someones is slightly less bad doesn't mean he isn't worth of ridicule.