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BHR-3 on 22 July 2010

b/c ive experienced certain things in my life that couldnt be explained the only explanation i could come up with is that there was a higher power controlling things, altering them



                                                             

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zgamer5 on 22 July 2010
Slimebeast said:
zgamer5 said:
Slimebeast said:
Armads said:
Slimebeast said:

It's because without God you can't explain reality.

From what we have observed so far in this physical world we can conclude that stuff don't come into being from nothing, so there must be an explanation outside this reality, forces beyond the observable physical world.

Then there are dozens of other reasons to believe in a God.


If you can't have something come from nothing then where did god come from?  If you say he's always been then that answer nulifys your own argument because then the same could be said for the universe.  If you say another god then the question must be asked again endlessly.

From what we know about our universe through observations time and time again stuff don't come out of nothing. Therefore there should be something beyond this universe, for example a god.

from what we know about our universe and the fact that if green land melts their will be an ice age, their are no such things as patterns and hence if we are created the universe shoudn't be created, also if god is part of your universe then he should abide by it laws, hence he must come out of something.

if god created the universe where was he when he did that? if he was in the void he would be non existent.

When God created the universe he was in the god-world.

so know you belive in gods? if their was a god world then their would be gods, so then "god" woudnt be omnipotent as their would be other gods to undo his creations or actions.



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dtewi on 22 July 2010
BHR-3 said:

b/c ive experienced certain things in my life that couldnt be explained the only explanation i could come up with is that there was a higher power controlling things, altering them


What were these events?



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zgamer5 on 22 July 2010
Slimebeast said:
FootballFan said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I believe in God and i follow the religion islam. Try reading the Quran one day. The book is actually very scientific. It explains many things. It even says the world is round even though the book was found at a time people thought the world was flat. It even hints that there other planets with life on it. Anyways everything has to come from somewhere. And there are some things that just can't be explained. And then God is the answer because everything has to come from somewhere. You think the universe just popped up one random day and humanity just popped up as well. Having no answer is just as bad. Lets face it just because there is no proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Yeah, but then you can say that about anything which has no evidence of existing. I could say i believe in dragons and flying spegehtti monsters and all sorts. Without credible evidence it takes someone with divine personal knowledge or blind faith to believe.

EDIT: I also like it how people doged my questions like they were going to give them AIDS.

They're good questions but so common that I guess it gets tiring to address them so often.

As for the last one, there's also a strong correlation between intelligence and stance against immigration. But from what I understand you're a big sceptic about immigration yourself. Something ain't right just because intellectuals believe in it.


we are in a world where proof is needed, if it would exist their would be proof, yes you would say we didnt find it yet? then howcome we have more then 3 billion people who believe in such a proofless idea? lets relate things to gaming, i could come and say the ds sold 500 million units without proof, does that mean its true? ofcourse their is proof against it, but their is also proof against god.



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dtewi on 22 July 2010
zgamer5 said:
Slimebeast said:
FootballFan said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I believe in God and i follow the religion islam. Try reading the Quran one day. The book is actually very scientific. It explains many things. It even says the world is round even though the book was found at a time people thought the world was flat. It even hints that there other planets with life on it. Anyways everything has to come from somewhere. And there are some things that just can't be explained. And then God is the answer because everything has to come from somewhere. You think the universe just popped up one random day and humanity just popped up as well. Having no answer is just as bad. Lets face it just because there is no proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Yeah, but then you can say that about anything which has no evidence of existing. I could say i believe in dragons and flying spegehtti monsters and all sorts. Without credible evidence it takes someone with divine personal knowledge or blind faith to believe.

EDIT: I also like it how people doged my questions like they were going to give them AIDS.

They're good questions but so common that I guess it gets tiring to address them so often.

As for the last one, there's also a strong correlation between intelligence and stance against immigration. But from what I understand you're a big sceptic about immigration yourself. Something ain't right just because intellectuals believe in it.


we are in a world where proof is needed, if it would exist their would be proof, yes you would say we didnt find it yet? then howcome we have more then 3 billion people who believe in such a proofless idea? lets relate things to gaming, i could come and say the ds sold 500 million units without proof, does that mean its true? ofcourse their is proof against it, but their is also proof against god.

There is no proof against God. No physical proof anyway.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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Boutros on 22 July 2010
dtewi said:
BHR-3 said:

b/c ive experienced certain things in my life that couldnt be explained the only explanation i could come up with is that there was a higher power controlling things, altering them


What were these events?

His video game sales premonitions :P



dtewi on 22 July 2010
Boutros said:
dtewi said:
BHR-3 said:

b/c ive experienced certain things in my life that couldnt be explained the only explanation i could come up with is that there was a higher power controlling things, altering them


What were these events?

His video game sales premonitions :P

You're so mean!



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routsounmanman on 22 July 2010

A good God wouldn't allow such injustice and misery to this world. And if there's a bad one that would, I'd turn my back on him.



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zgamer5 on 22 July 2010


Being in 3rd place never felt so good

dharh on 22 July 2010
zgamer5 said:
Slimebeast said:

They're good questions but so common that I guess it gets tiring to address them so often.

As for the last one, there's also a strong correlation between intelligence and stance against immigration. But from what I understand you're a big sceptic about immigration yourself. Something ain't right just because intellectuals believe in it.


we are in a world where proof is needed, if it would exist their would be proof, yes you would say we didnt find it yet? then howcome we have more then 3 billion people who believe in such a proofless idea? lets relate things to gaming, i could come and say the ds sold 500 million units without proof, does that mean its true? ofcourse their is proof against it, but their is also proof against god.

Why would 3 billion people believe in a concept with zero proof? Simple. Its easy, its comforting, and its what their parents, grandparents, etc believed in. It ain't easy to go against what you were exposed to for all your childhood.

The biggest reasons (don't read this as proof, as said before, there is no proof against or for god) against a god of one particular religion is that there are so many different religions. The Biggest 3, despite their insistence on being one and the same god for each of the 3, have wildly different gods. So which one is correct? Suggesting that it doesn't matter which destroys all credibility.

Here's a concept for people who claim there had to be a beginning and god must be it.

Existence must exist.

The line that goes 'you can't have something from nothing' precludes the concept that there cannot and never has been nothing.



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