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FreeTalkLive on 27 July 2010

So instead of second you meant third or fifth?



 

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jarrod on 27 July 2010
daroamer said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:Only Toshiba Made HD DVD optical drives, Even Sony could have Made them also but did not at the time.An Since it was Only Toshiba no more OEM manuf. made HD DVD optical drives for the HD DVD Player's Except for Toshiba why is that?

I keep seeing you say this, and I keep pointing out it's factually incorrect.  Stop intentionally spreading FUD and misinformation.

no it's true the only one's who made combo drives still had to use the Toshiba's chipset because of the IHD software, just because the player has a name stamped on it does not mean they created the optical drive in that player..if you would look in there Inside the player it will be a Toshiba optical drive!, so yes indeed it is true.

even in your list of drives Toshiba was the main manuf. because, well it was Toshiba's to start with, though other's such as Sony and Nec could have indeed made them HD DVD drives also, they also could make Blu-Ray drive which they did.

The Point being that At the Time Toshiba was the only place to get the HD DVD optical drives for your product. buy OEM.

Put up or shut up.  Cite any reputable source that says Toshiba was the lone manufacturer for HD-DVD drives.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/118976/nec_develops_cd_dvd_hddvd_drive.html


Er, did you read the article you're sourcing?  It talks about NEC's HD-DVD OEMs, lol.  The article even mentions Sanyo as another HD-DVD manufacturer.



daroamer on 27 July 2010
jarrod said:
daroamer said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:Only Toshiba Made HD DVD optical drives, Even Sony could have Made them also but did not at the time.An Since it was Only Toshiba no more OEM manuf. made HD DVD optical drives for the HD DVD Player's Except for Toshiba why is that?

I keep seeing you say this, and I keep pointing out it's factually incorrect.  Stop intentionally spreading FUD and misinformation.

no it's true the only one's who made combo drives still had to use the Toshiba's chipset because of the IHD software, just because the player has a name stamped on it does not mean they created the optical drive in that player..if you would look in there Inside the player it will be a Toshiba optical drive!, so yes indeed it is true.

even in your list of drives Toshiba was the main manuf. because, well it was Toshiba's to start with, though other's such as Sony and Nec could have indeed made them HD DVD drives also, they also could make Blu-Ray drive which they did.

The Point being that At the Time Toshiba was the only place to get the HD DVD optical drives for your product. buy OEM.

Put up or shut up.  Cite any reputable source that says Toshiba was the lone manufacturer for HD-DVD drives.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/118976/nec_develops_cd_dvd_hddvd_drive.html


Er, did you read the article you're sourcing?  It talks about NEC's HD-DVD OEMs, lol.  The article even mentions Sanyo as another HD-DVD manufacturer.


I was proving your point ;)



joeorc on 28 July 2010
daroamer said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:Only Toshiba Made HD DVD optical drives, Even Sony could have Made them also but did not at the time.An Since it was Only Toshiba no more OEM manuf. made HD DVD optical drives for the HD DVD Player's Except for Toshiba why is that?

I keep seeing you say this, and I keep pointing out it's factually incorrect.  Stop intentionally spreading FUD and misinformation.

no it's true the only one's who made combo drives still had to use the Toshiba's chipset because of the IHD software, just because the player has a name stamped on it does not mean they created the optical drive in that player..if you would look in there Inside the player it will be a Toshiba optical drive!, so yes indeed it is true.

even in your list of drives Toshiba was the main manuf. because, well it was Toshiba's to start with, though other's such as Sony and Nec could have indeed made them HD DVD drives also, they also could make Blu-Ray drive which they did.

The Point being that At the Time Toshiba was the only place to get the HD DVD optical drives for your product. buy OEM.

Put up or shut up.  Cite any reputable source that says Toshiba was the lone manufacturer for HD-DVD drives.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/118976/nec_develops_cd_dvd_hddvd_drive.html

The companies promise the first commercial HD-DVD players and drives in 2005.

notice:

NEC plans to offer the integrated chip starting in April and the drive starting in September next year as commercial products. The optical head will be sold by Sanyo, the NEC engineers say.

Notice the dates, and second Nanyo produces optical head's many companies produce those to go into other optical drives some of which have Sony optical heads.

please take heed of this:

Sony and NEC Sign Definitive Agreement to Establish a Joint Venture in the Optical Disc Drive Business.

Tokyo, Japan, Feb 27, 2006 - (JCN JCN Japan Corporate News
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JCN joint communications network (US DoD)  Newswire) - Sony Corporation ("Sony") and NEC (NEC Corporation, Tokyo, www.nec.com, www.necus.com) An electronics conglomerate known in the U.S. for its monitors. In Japan, it had the lion's share of the PC market until the late 1990s (see PC 98).

NEC was founded in Tokyo in 1899 as Nippon Electric Company, Ltd.  Corporation ("NEC") announced today that they have signed a definitive agreement to establish a joint venture company, Sony NEC Optiarc Sony NEC Optiarc Inc is a 55:45 (Sony 55%, NEC 45%) joint venture of Sony and NEC Corporation, and was established in April 2006. The company's business is the design and manufacturing of optical disk drives, primarily for the OEM desktop and notebook PC markets.  Inc., in carrying out optical disc drive In computing, an optical disk drive (ODD) is a disk drive that uses electromagnetic waves as part of the process of reading and writing data. It is a computer's peripheral device, that stores data on optical discs.  business. Shinichi Yamamura, currently Deputy President of Video Business Group of Sony, will serve as the president of the new company.

Sony and NEC will separate their respective optical disc drive businesses on April 1, 2006 in preparation for creating this joint venture. The planned date of establishment of Sony NEC Optiarc Inc, is April 3, 2006 and it will take over the two separated businesses in creating one company.

Outline of Sony NEC Optiarc Inc. Joint Venture Company

Company Name: Sony NEC Optiarc Inc.
Business Profile: Development, engineering, production, marketing and
sales of optical disc drive products
Scale of Business: 220 billion yen
(FY04 sales of the optical disc drive business of
Sony and NEC combined)
Establishment: April 3, 2006
Head Office: 1-11-1 Osaki, Shinagawa-ku, Tokyo
Representative: Representative Director and President, Shinichi Yamamura
(currently Deputy President, Video Business Group,
Sony Corporation)
Capital: 490 million yen
Stock Ratio: Sony 55%, NEC 45%
Employees: Approximately 350
Directors: Katsumi Ihara, Kiyoshi Nishitani, Hidenosuke Kanai,
Shinichi Yamamura, Shunichi Suzuki, Masahiko Yamamoto,
Eiichi Ichikawa

so:

Sony, NEC to Merge Optical Drive Businesses Unnamed new company will develop, produce both HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc formats.

Sony and NEC have concluded a basic agreement to merge their optical-disc drive businesses into a new company, the companies have announced.

The two companies hope to launch the new venture on April 1, 2006, which is the first day of the new financial year in Japan. Sony will hold a 55 percent stake in the as-yet-unnamed company and NEC will hold the remaining 45 percent stake, according to the terms of a memorandum of understanding signed by the companies.

The new joint venture will work on planning, design, manufacturing, and marketing of optical-disc drives for products such as personal computers and DVD players, they said in a statement. In the next-generation optical disc market the company will manufacture drives for both the HD-DVD format, of which NEC is a major backer, and Blu-ray Disc, of which Sony is a leading supporter, both companies said.

The merger plans bring together NEC's optical-disc large scale integrated circuit (LSI) chip technology with Sony's optical pick-up technology. Both companies are already major manufacturers of optical-disc drives.

Complimentary Efforts

Discussions on a merger grew out of a business relationship that began in the middle of this year when NEC started ordering parts for its drives from Sony, said Sojiro Shimura, a spokesperson for NEC in Tokyo.

In the course of discussions between the two companies the conclusion was reached that the respective businesses were more complementary than competitive, said Gerald Cavanagh, a Sony spokesperson in Tokyo.

"There was a feeling that those two complementary strengths would make more sense in a joint venture than competing against each other," he said.

The optical disc drive businesses of Sony and NEC generated a combined revenue of $1.8 billion in the fiscal year from April 2004 to March 2005, they said. Together they have an estimated optical-disc drive market share of around 20 percent, according to the companies.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/123586/sony_nec_to_merge_optical_drive_businesses.html

hmmm..i wonder where those HD DVD drives went...lol

Sony NEC Optiarc Sony NEC Optiarc Inc
is a 55:45 (Sony 55%, NEC 45%)

o'l yea to produce more Blu-Ray optical drives instead



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc on 28 July 2010

NEC was susposed to release a drive i think it was called 1100 but never materialized.

I get a kick out of Staples where for over a yr sell hd blanks....hahha, imagine a few morons that prob bought them thinking they would work in the dvd drives.

Possibly theres hd-dvd camcorders?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-998882.html



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 28 July 2010

guys why the hell are you talking about an obsolete format?



GameAnalyser on 28 July 2010

when such a console was already making waves in sales category there wasn't the need for PS3 to be launched that time around...