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Solid_Snake4RD on 18 July 2010
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not


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Mr Puggsly on 18 July 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not

You don't give up. How about this... when we talk about something making a lot of money. We'll end it by saying "after over head costs of course."

Since you're the only one that gets confused by it we'll do it especially for you.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 18 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not

You don't give up. How about this... when we talk about something making a lot of money. We'll end it by saying "after over head costs of course."

Since you're the only one that gets confused by it we'll do it especially for you.

confused by what,you are the one getting confused over the conversation



Mr Puggsly on 18 July 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not

You don't give up. How about this... when we talk about something making a lot of money. We'll end it by saying "after over head costs of course."

Since you're the only one that gets confused by it we'll do it especially for you.

confused by what,you are the one getting confused over the conversation

I'm confused by your confusion of the obvious. It's unbelievable.



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makingmusic476 on 18 July 2010
Fumanchu said:
legend92(3) said:

These are the numbers from the VGChartz yearly chart. They are sales for this year so far.


Oh ok - well I guess it makes sense as the PS3 sold 1.2million more consoles this year so far.  I guess we can glean from this that new console owners buy more software.


I believe there's more to it than that.  A majority of multiplats have been selling better on the ps3 since the beginning of the year, both new releases and older games.  If you look through our weekly software charts, even older titles like GTAIV are selling better ps3, and the ps3's lead in software when tallying up the sales of these multiplats is generally much larger than the gap in weekly hardware sales.

This trend has continued even these past few weeks.  The 360 has been selling significantly more hardware since the release of the 360S in North America, yet the ps3 is still selling more software (save for last week, but if you remove the two big new exclusives - Crackdown 2 and White Knight Chronicles 2 - ps3 wins).

I think the buying base of ps3 owners is simply larger than that of 360 owners now, though some demographics will continue to lean one way or the other.  Whether it's due to piracy, people rebuying the console (as shown buy the bump in hardware sales not accompanied by a bump in software sales these past few weeks), or what have you, ps3 owners are generally buying more software.



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PearlJam on 18 July 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not


You are the only person still crying about his post. You obviously have trouble reading even the most basic English sentences.

 

I'm not bullshitting, as soon as I see that stupid-looking avatar I usually skip right over you. It's usually just you quoting 500 people with a bunch of crap that is barely even readable anyway. I made the mistake of reading one of your posts, and have now payed the price which is losing a few brain cells.



Solid_Snake4RD on 18 July 2010
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not


You are the only person still crying about his post. You obviously have trouble reading even the most basic English sentences.

you have the trouble follwoing and understanding what other were discusing

I'm not bullshitting, as soon as I see that stupid-looking avatar I usually skip right over you.

stupid-looking avatar,what does that have to do with skipping the post?..........................rofl

It's usually just you quoting 500 people with a bunch of crap that is barely even readable anyway.

thats whay you were able to read the last one

I made the mistake of reading one of your posts, and have now payed the price which is losing a few brain cells.

then lose some more now.

i think it has more to do with your eyes though





Mr Puggsly on 18 July 2010

Hey, Solid_Snake. You haven't responded to my comment towards the bottom of page 5 in this thread.

I'm curious to see what Sony loving spin you put into it.



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WilliamWatts on 18 July 2010
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PearlJam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
veni_13 said:

There was nothing about it being all profit, Solid_Snake. 

yes the way he was imlying the billion  dollars was hinting towards profit


You are the only person that took it that way, you lack even the most basic reading comprehension skills.

no i didn't,we were talking about profitability.maybe you got a problem with ur readin skills

Almost every time I see that Solid Snake avatar I skip your posts, because it hurts myt head to read such mindless dribble.

if thats so why reply now.

just stop bullshiting,nobody cares who you skip or not


You are the only person still crying about his post. You obviously have trouble reading even the most basic English sentences.

 

I'm not bullshitting, as soon as I see that stupid-looking avatar I usually skip right over you. It's usually just you quoting 500 people with a bunch of crap that is barely even readable anyway. I made the mistake of reading one of your posts, and have now payed the price which is losing a few brain cells.

Just put him on ignore! I bumbed the thread with the script, look for it in hot topics.



makingmusic476 on 18 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well I know it doesn't cost a billion dollars annually to deliver online play. I mean Sony doesn't lose a billion dollars offering it for free.

the servers cost alot and the exclusivity that they try to purchase costs alot

Also, they make enough to have Activision and EA complaining.

the Activision and EA complaining isn't about what MS makes

its that more people have to pay for XBOX LIVE to play online and also when people play the games online,they forget about other games

It also motivated Sony to offer PSN Plus.

how the hell is PSN plus motivated by it as it is a totally different service

According to the link below, Blizzard only spent $200 million on operational costs for WoW, between the years of 2004 and 2008. Not bad considering they generate hundreds of millions annually.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330507,00.asp

With that said, it must only take a small fraction of Gold subscriptions to cover the cost of the servers. MS purchases exclusives with the shit ton of profit they earn from Gold subscribers.

 

Bullshit, the Activision CEO has complained that MW2 is the most played game on Live yet MS is the one earning from Gold subscriptions. EA has been struggling with MS since the original Xbox basically the same reason.

 

Simply offering a pay service was clearly motivated by Xbox Live. They even offer some of the same benefits as Gold accounts. I think by the time the PS4 rolls around, PSN Plus will be required for online play.

They'd get one hell of a backlash if they start charging for online play, regardless if it was on a new platform.

It's something Ireally  doubt they'd do, given the way PSN is set up.  It currentlly spans both PS3 and PSP quite well, and with the way things are hading, it should have similar functionality on both PS4 and PSP2 as it has on PS3.  It's become a platform in and of itself, one that spans multiple pieces of hardware, much like Steam.  Charging for online play on one piece of hardware but not another simply would not work.

Really all they need is for PS Plus, Home, etc. to cover the costs of PSN.  Online pay doesn't come with any costs outside of the inherent costs of hosting and storing someone's profile, which comes with every pSN user, whether they play online or not.  So long as these servies vocer PSN's expenses, they shouldn't have a need to start charging for online play.

Also, PS Plus and XBL are too fundementally different products.  With XBL you're paying for features such as online play and party chat, with a few services like Netflix mixed in.  With PS Plus, you're currently paying primarily for discounts and whanot, as well as access to some services and products like Hulu Plus and Qore.  It's more like a mix of a rewards card and a magazine subscription rather than a user fee. 

It is really only beneficial for people who use PSN quite actively (and indeed, the only people on my friends list that have paid for the service are the most active users I know), and there is no detriment to NOT having the service, aside from missing the ocassional discount on a game you may be interested in.  On the other hand, if you don't have XBL Gold you lose access to half the features in most games (more than half in any modern FPS).